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Originally posted by TGPKiller
Hello guys!
I'm the guy from drawnsex.com
This is a really interesting thread, and that's fun for me that The Hun is lying through the whole trhead.
First of all, I didn't receive any e-mails from him after our discussion which was around 3-4 months ago. As it seemed to me he had nothing to answer and didn't answer. After this I didn't get any single e-mail.
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I remember the last message to you: continue this and you will be attacked again. YOU initiated the attack by submitting. If you don't submit to me you don't get attacked by me. Simple as that. In the mean time you're STILL -trying- to submit to me. So, hear this: ANY ATTEMPT TO SUBMIT TO MY SITE WILL RESULT IN ANY ACTION I CAN THINK OFF. There you have it. If you don't submit I'll leave you alone. But you want to swim in my pond. I make the rules in my pond, not you. If you don't like the rules: pick another pond. If you bend the rules to your own liking: expect to be be pushing under water. As a warning first, and an extra warning as second (both of which you recieved), but the third won't be a little warning anymore.
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I'm curious about people blaming me in something.
I don't break any laws, this is the Hun who is breaking laws.
I'm really sorry that Hun's (!) attack affects GFY, but GFY is the biggest webmasters forum in my opinion and it's the best way for me to find people who pay attention to this problem.
This redirecting of Hun's attack is not about to crush GFY from my side, I hope you are able to understand this, it's just about to draw whole attention which is possible to this problem.
I was respecting Hun. Really respecting. He is the guy who created the biggest TGP on the web. But I lost whole respect to him now. This asshole (excuse me for such words) thinks that he is the God and he is allowed to do anything that he wants. He thinks that there are no laws wich work for him.
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Respecting people means sticking to their rules. It's ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT you EVER respected me. If you didn't show a complete and utter disrespect for my rules we wouldn't have any problems now, do you understand that? Do you understand that I do not screw around with people that don't screw around with me? Don't try to put the blame elsewhere. You are the ONLY one to blame for this. You cheat, you carry the concequenses, easy as that.
The solution to "this problem" is easy. Stop submitting to me. And you can complain all you want that I didn't mail you, you KNEW damn well what was coming to you. You've been attacked before. Same thing happened then. The attack launced was a simple one. I can initiate that in about 30 seconds. I will get your server down if you EVER submit to me again. So if anything happens with your server it will be YOUR OWN FAULT. You've been warned over and over again. Submit me to me and know what happens. Now let this be 100% clear to you: IF YOU SUBMIT TO ME EVER AGAIN I WILL GET YOU DOWN. Obviously if you do not submit I will not take any actions. You've been warned
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Okay, I'm in Russia, that's pretty tough for me to sue him fior this ILLEGAL ATTACK, and I'm not going to do that, but I hope you all understand that this sucks.
Let me explain my position.
If you run TGP - you expect to get some "cheating" galleries, where the traffic is redirected to other sites. That's YOUR JOB to remove such galleries from your listiing.
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Ok, you're in Russia, so I can't sue you. Let me explain my position. If you cheat on people expect to get burned. Expect the whole thing to blow up right in your face. Simple as that. That is the risk that comes with YOUR JOB. You are to blame for this, I'm just attempting to make sure the rules I set for MY page are followed. If you don't follow the rules, expect to get hurt.
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If you expect to have 100% clean TGP without problems - then you are probably a mad guy, who lost his head somethere on the heavens or any other pretty far place.
That's very simple. If you get gallery with redirect - you remove it from your listing, you ban domain (IP, DNS), etc.
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If you expect to disrespect someones rules completely and walk away unharmed you are probably a mad guy. Please expect your head to be on the heavens or any other pretty far place for cheating on people. Simple as that.
I banned your IP's, DNS's and everything. And you just registed new names and more to new IP-addresses. I made it VERY clear to you your actions weren't appreciated. VERY clear. You're playing Mr. Innocent here to proof anybody how God-like I act and how sorry we should all feel for Mr. Russian Cheater, but that's not working. Actually I'm glad you came forward here. You gave me the same BS last time. Oh, it's your job to delete it blabla I respect you blabla I'm from Russia so I'm poor blablabla...
Facts are simple: I have a page. My Page. My rules. Don't like the rules? Don't submit.
Submit anyway? Ignore requests? Show absolutely no respect? Well... you now know what will happen.
Damned, "I respected The Hun"... Hahaha! Don't make me laugh. You steal from someone, break every rule they have (submitting more than allowed, submitting using more than one e-mail address/name, redirecting, you name it) and then "loosing respect" when they get back at you?! Sorry attempt to gain people's sympathy here Mr...
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Guys, I never had an idea to IMG SRC mr Hun because he removes my galleries from listing, althought I can do this, I have enough traffic to hurt him.
But this is fucking illegal and stupid and I will never do this.
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May I point out again that you were swimming in MY pond? I set the rules there, not you. You submit to me, not the other way around. I can delete a gallery without breaking anybody's rules. My Site, My Rules. Comprende?
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Why this asshole (excuse me again) can do this?
He doesn't want to do his job. He just wants to post pics of his new cars on GFY, instead of doing his job. Is that MY problem?
Or YOURS? I think that's HIS problem. That's not hard. That's simple.
He just expected to do his job, remove my gals if he doesn't like them (because of bad content or redirect, that doesn't make sense), and that's ALL.
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Posing cars is done out of enthousiasm. I feel the people here are people to share good stories with. I'm enthousiastic about the cars so I post it here. This has NOTHING to do with doing my job right or wrong.
I'm doing my job. I take care of my problems. I wrote you, wrote you again, wrote you again, you disregarded my requests and kept on cheating STATING EVEN YOU WOULD GO ON DOING THIS regardless of my requests... Then I took care of the problem with tougher methods. That's how you play these games. Someone here put it very well
1: ask 'em to stop
2: tell 'em to stop
3: demand 'em to stop
4: make 'em stop
You are at level 4 now. And I think I have been way too kind to you by sticking ing level 1 through 3 for so long
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Where am I wrong?
And I'm NOT redirecting whole traffic to rape sites. Less than 10% percents. Other traffic is going to mainstream sites. That's another fun thing about Mr Hun.
If he wants to contact me - that's not a problem, we can do that.
He doesn't need to cry here. Stop crying. Just write e-mail, and talk to me if you want.
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Oh, this is priceless. I tell you you're redirecting to rape sites. You reply "Oh, I'm NOT redirecting whole traffic, less then 10%"... LESS THEN 10% IS REDIRECTING TOO YOU MORON!!!!
I didn't cry here, I explained people what happened. Please get your facts straight.
We e-mailed before, remember? Did that work? No. not at all. SO WHY ON EARTH SHOULD I SPEND THE TIME TO TALK TO YOU THROUGH E-MAIL AGAIN?? I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY LIFE THEN TO E-MAIL WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS PROVEN TO IGNORE ANY OF MY REQUESTS ANYWAY. Why I didn't mail? Simple: you showed me on more than one occasion that mailing you wouldn't make any difference to the situation.
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And another thing. Why I lost whole of my respect to Mr Hun. LONG time ago, when I posted my frist gallery with redirect to Mr Hun he answered with IMG SRC. This is WEIRD, FUCKING BAD, AND ILLEGAL BEHAVIOUR. I was shocked, and now I think he doesn't deserve any respect.
You are not the God. And you should live with it.
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If you redirect a gallery submitted to me (which means you had a good gallery first that was reviewed and deliberately changed after it was posted) you didn't have ANY respect for me in the first place.
And I don't attack someone on the first redirect. Unless... you redirected to that kiddy porn toplist which is on your domain or to that rape site of yours. I explained it more than once on this board: an attack is always a last resort. When all else fails...
One piece of advice, or at least a request, do yourself and me a favor and stop submitting to my site. That will be the end of this whole problem. Me getting wound up over this is a direct result of you cheating. You are the cause of these problems. Obay rules or don't submit. Simple as that...