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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon
personally i can't see any need for religion unless you are some kind of weak minded person who needs a reason or an afterlife to feel better about their current shitty life because, does it really matter what came before or after this life? do you need religion to treat people with respect and do the right things in life? i surely hope not. why do people need religion? to fill a void? i just don't get it. i believe in the idea of a higher power but some people let it control their lives so much.
and science is faith? faith is defined as belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence which is not what science is at all. sure many theories will be debunked but thats that is major difference, science allows for the evolution of ideas whereas religion is stuck, new ideas are viewed as blasphemous.
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Here is the problem. Whether you want to believe it or not the various faiths have formed our socities belief structure today. There is no way around. You can say we'd all be better off without religion, but where we're at today is a result of religion. You can say you didn't grow up in a religious environment and that it's done nothing for you. But it's a fact that religion has played a vital role in shaping our current society and what we believe to be right and wrong today. It doesn't matter if you're not actively involved with a religion or believe in it. You interact with people and the world. It has helped shape what you believe in.
as for science, for the hell of it i'll throw out a glaring obvious argument that i've seen used before. show me a math equation that proves love exists. it's something most of us know is real, but it cannot be proven to anyone but yourself. and then only through experience.
i don't really want to get into arguments about science. it ends up in a never ending philosophical circle.