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Originally Posted by PR_Tom
That reasoning might have been fine except for these places putting "automatic" tips on things. Why in the world would I automatically agree to tip someone just because they are waiting on more than 7 people at a table? They may wait on 100 people per night, who gives a dang if they were all at 1 table or at 50 different tables throughout the evening? Isn't it harder to wait 50 tables than 1?? Why not automatically require a "service fee" (for petes sake at least dont insult everyone calling it an "automatic tip") UNLESS you have at least 8 people in the party?
Most entry jobs fall into the theme "work just hard enough not to get fired for pay thats just high enough so they dont quit". But those get a guaranteed federal minimum wage and aren't service related and tipping is usually not a factor or forbidden anyway.
IMHO the magic "tip" fee is nothing more than a supplement to the wait staffs income that the restaurant is too cheap to pay! And I am unanimous in that. 
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Dude. Think of it this way, you have a table of 8 or 10 or whatever, that is a lot of work that the server has to put in at that table for orders, drinks, etc. If they have one table of ten and a few others with 2-4 the 2-4s are going to get less attention because large parties always need stuff and at random times where as the 2-4s always need drinks or whatever at the same time for the most part. Besides, a lot of times at the bigger parties everyone always assumes that the other person is going to leave the tip especially if they split the bill. So the automatic tip is there to protect the server in the event this happens since they have to tip out on their total sales. So if a group has a bill of lets say $1000 and they leave no tip, they would be on the hook for a 1-3% of that which would eat into either their poor hourly wage or their other tips.
I can't believe that this is even a bone of contention. If you want to be a dick and not tip ever then don't. I always tip on good service and don't on bad service.
It is obvious that you don't understand what you are talking about anyways. Even "nice" establishments don't pay their wait staff very well as far as hourly wages. Everyone in the service industry works hard for their tips which is where they make the money. This is not working at the local Foot Locker for minimum wage. Further, the managers as well as the kitchen and bus boys all make a cut of that tip.
I think you should put your money where your mouth is and open a place up and see how long you last paying 4 or 5 servers $300 a night. How does that sound?