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Originally Posted by bm bradley
so you're okay with your civil rights being diminished? you like being strip searched getting on an airline? you think it's okay muslims to push their culture and religious laws into our way of life? they have no separation between church and state, while we at least pretend we do  |
I have a huge problem with the separation of church and state. In my previous post I wrote that I have a problem with the way they treat women and take their religion to extremes, but that alone does not mean that I have it out for a whole race of people or am willing to make fun of the way they choose to dress. In North America we have just as extreme religions they just don't get that much press because they aren't perceived to be a threat to us. In the US the separation of church and state is and has been eroding for a while. But it is an ebb and flow like politics in the West always is.
As for being strip searched on the airlines, I have never been and were I, I'd be pissed. That said, the events of September 11th can be viewed through sever different eyes. On one side you have Al Qaeda who think that the US has done them harm and they are reacting (which is no different from us reacting to them via the war). Then you have the people who think that everyone in the US is innocent and that they don't deserve to have this happen to them (equally possible view and the reason for the war). And finally you have the people who believe that the US government was involved in setting this up in order to start the war and secure oil for the future. (Perhaps a far stretch but who really knows what politicians are willing to do to accomplish their goal) I think that it is very hard to place blame on the event as no matter how you look at it it was a reaction to years and years of one thing or another. It was probably going to happen one day or another. This is just the world that we live in now. I think that if we were going to be truly subjective we would probably have to chalk this up to it being everyones fault for allowing the situation to come to this sad and unnecessary end.
But in the end, I think that it ultimately comes down to where you grew up and what you were taught as a kid. Were we all born into Islam I think we would probably all have a much different opinion save for the few that recognized it's faults.
Long and somewhat rambling I know. I think what I am really trying to express here is that hating this group or that group is not going to help us advance as a whole. Regardless of what we say or do, fighting wars has very rarely solved a problem. Probably it would be best for everyone involved to figure out a way to co-exist rather than continue to hate each other. Do I have problems with their culture...sure, but I have problems with ours as well. No one has all the answers or is ever going to be 100% right. Many throughout history have tried yet none have succeeded.