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Old 10-26-2008, 03:56 PM  
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You're right, the part about him not "officially" being a plumber is kind of splitting hairs, but its a side note that fact lends itself to is that nothing about where this guy was coming from with his question nor the way that McCain is using him in his campaign makes sense. Everything about him and what he said has a big hole in it. If he was making over 250k, then no problem, legitimate question, plumber or not, no problem... legitimate question, done. But again the fact remains, since he does not make over 250k, his question was illegitimate. He even fumbled over the amounts that the business makes to make sure that he stated an amount that would be ober 250k. To fake it was the only way that Joe could put a proverbial finger in Obamas chest (for whatever reason he has to do so) somethinig he would not have had any leverage to do so had he told the truth... that he makes 40k/year and is not "getting ready" to buy his bosses business, as he said, "Its a dream of mine". Since the truth is not much to stand on against Obama (in fact its reason to stand with him), Joe had to make something up.

Obama said he would be taxed when he was under the impression that Joe would be making 280k per year like Joe said. Surely he would take the man at his word. Now that Obama has the correct information and Joe admits that he makes no where near that, the fact is clear, Joes taxes will remain the same as they are now under Obama. You can't lie and say you're gonna be making 280k and then run around and say "see he's gonna tax me" when you actually only make $40k. That's simply a lie.


Bottom line, IF YOU MAKE OVER 250k YOUR BUSH TAX CUT WILL GO AWAY, IF YOU MAKE UNDER 250k YOUR TAXES WILL STAY THE SAME. Read that over a couple of times, repubs seem to not hear that.

Single father of a 13 year old boy askes a question based on a made up scenario where he would make over 250k. Thats what this is all about, whether he makes or is about to make 250k+ or not. He said he was "about to", he IS NOT about to. That's what this is all about. He faked it. When you fake or lie about something, especially something that has important implications, people absolutely do get their panties in a twist and will and should go after you every time. Lie in court and you go to jail. If you're gonna lie, you have to be willing to face the consequences and that's what Joe is going through right now. It's not a poor guy who asked a legitimate question in his front yard. It's a guy who stretched the truth and asked an illegitimate question in order to be able to corner a guy who he is against (for some reason that's not logically nor reasonably apparent). You can win a lot of arguments by lying but it doesn't make you right.

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR = taxes WILL go up
UNDER TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR (Joe Plumber for now and years to come) = taxes WILL NOT go up

That being said, see the "Sara Pailin meets Joe The Plumber" scene which is converting like crazy at CougarsInHeat.com now!

Its simple really. He asked Obama a simple hypothetical question in his own front yard. He did not request Obama to come there. So much for the (keating conspiracy) lol. He asks him the question we all know what he asked. Obama answered. Doesn't matter whether he already owns it. In fact I think its pretty damn smart to find out the answers before he takes over the business. Him and his boss had already talked about him taking over the business. So regardless of the license, his current salary etc, the guy wanted an answer. Obama answered in a way that obviously sparked up an issue with a large percentage of the country. Spread the wealth. All these diversions on Joe, and Joe's background, tax history, current license situation, etc etc are all bs.

Why in the world a private citizen asking an honest question deserves him to have his life torn apart is beyond me. I don't care if he is running for office. If he does more power to him. We need more people like that in office imo. Common sense non elitists that know they are in office to serve, not to be served. Ok back to my Wendy's frosty and Hamburger mmmmm.
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