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Originally Posted by dav3
I did not describe Atheism here.
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Yes you did. "What the goal is, is to possibly answer questions of what natural forces can do the work of God." is about as atheistic statement as I can imagine only a couple of notches down the list after "I don't believe in a supernatural god or being".
So you did in the majority of your post that I obviously referred to, and even in the bit you've singled out thinking it's contrarian isn't against an atheistic stance. Atheism is lack of a belief in a god. A sufficiently advanced alien being with planet creation tools million of years technologically more advanced than us playing "real life Civ IV" is perfectly within the atheist worldview as long as they themselves weren't created by a supernatural god.
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Originally Posted by dav3
The question is silly and lacking a '?', but the answer is 'it makes no difference'.
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The question is designed to show the uselessness of your statements, ergo not silly, but efficient because you've just agreed with me. If it makes no difference than why spent 5 minutes babbling about electricity as a redefined god, an almighty force.
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Originally Posted by dav3
An Atheist wanting to inject god into everything. That's an unforeseen twist.
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Er.. In opposites land, where "injecting" means trying to remove, then yes you are correct. In.. uh.. this reality, any knowledge of the english language will read my statements as trying to show why your statement "interchange the idea 'God' with a sort of unified energy that holds the Universe together and makes things happen and also destroys those things. What if gravity, or electricity is the almighty energy that creates and destroys and holds the Universe together?" is useless and at best superfluous.
Have you not been able to comprehend the several times I've asked what the point of doing that actually is? I'm using your definition of god. I'm quoting you. I don't mean a guy with a beard. I'm saying there isn't a difference between the thought process that makes a caveman point at lightning and call it a thunder god, and you pointing at electromagnetism and calling it an "almighty force" of "creation". I don't mean that you think it's a god. I SPECIFICALLY said that. That you wouldn't pray every time you turned on your tv. I said that it was an empty thought game and implied that it neither advances or augments our understanding of the universe.
Given it's only useful when the discussion is of a level where the participants understand each other, and given you aren't grasping these quite obvious arguments, even to rebut them, there isn't much point continuing with you.