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Old 01-29-2009, 09:47 PM  
Barefootsies
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Originally Posted by Kevin-SFBucks View Post
Makes you long for those days when people were gassed under Hussein's rule, or they were picked up tortured and beaten and never heard from again doesn't it? Yeah, getting rid of the people that did that was a terrible thing wasn't it?

Don't you think some of the fault for the "years in those conditions" lies with the Iraqi leaders and people for not moving forward on their democracy? Dragging their own feet as it were?

Let me ask. If you had lived under a dictator and a force came in (whether you wanted to recognize them as liberators or not) and gave you the "keys to the kingdom" as it were and said... here ya go... set it up... make your own way.

Would you as part of a population allow the shit to continue? Would you back the insurgents and the wahhabi and the shiites and the sunnis calling for just as much oppression as there was before?

Do you honestly believe that the problems in Iraq truly are 100% the fault of the GWB administration or can you lay a large part of the blame on Iraq itself for not pulling it's head from it's collective ass and stepping up to the plate?

Seems to me one of the first things the Iraqis should have done was control the one viable resource they had... THE OIL.... and sell the shit out of it and get some revenue coming in.....

Then they could have built the hospitals, the schools, the infrastructure that everyone blames the US for not supplying. They could have employed their own police force and said to the US... Thanks for the starter.. Now get the fuck outta here. We're good. What..... must we do everything to be considered as acceptable? Getting rid of asshat #1 and his boys wasn't enough? Yeah, the whole thing was done looking for the elusive WMD's but dropping Hussein in the process wasn't such a bad trade-off was it?
You need to turn down the volume on O'Reilly friend.

There were plenty of mistakes made by the Bush administration. If you are claiming there were not, and it is all the Iraqi and Kurds fault. You need to turn the channel off Fox News a bit more.

Start here
Bush's War
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/

Bad Voodoo's War
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/badvoodoo/

Endgame
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/endgame/view/

and plenty of others here (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/view/) going into a lot of detail on the BULL SHIT of this war on the boogie man. A lot of it coming from the front line soldiers and people over there, and ex-Pentagon and defense people. I think I will trust them a bit more than GWB and the goose stepping storm troopers.

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