I put the butcher, joe brandi and jon atherton in the same class of people. Absolute pure shit bags. They both LIE their asses off for your money. I can't believe anyone would defend them with all of the scamming threads out there. I would NEVER trust or do business with anyone that defends those pieces of shit.
would you be friends with a pedo just becuase he hasn't molested your daughter yet? "Yes, I heard he molested the Smith's daughter, but, he's ok with me, he never touched my daughter, so he's still my buddy."
some of you people are "raging" idiots and you just ousted yourselves in this thread.
~Ray