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WeirdHomer · 02-16-2009, 01:05 PM

Here we go...... even before any investigation is done whatsoever the easyest thing to do is blame the pilots.

First of all, turbo props are not unsafe in any way..... Fokker50 is one of the safest aircraft flying and guess what..... it has two turbo prop engines. Even if this was caused by a prop or engine failure in any way i wouldn't doubt stepping on a prop again for a second. Before you say things like that, read up on the difference between props, turbo props and jet engines then come back and say what aircraft you think has the safest engine configuration.

Secondly it is perfectly normal flying a short flight on autopilot. Do you ever think about the work load for pilots on short flights? Workload is higher on short flights, remember that! Autopilot is the perfect solution for this. It's not because it's a prop that it doesn't have a fully automated autopilot with ILS. Again, read up on autopilots, ILS, procedures BEFORE you say things like that. Did it ever occur to somebody that the pilots might have been fighting a battle they couldn't win untill the last second of their life? If ice actually was involved then yes, flying on autopilot was not a good choise to make at all, only when you fly by hand you can be fast enough to respond to any quickly changing flying charasteristics of the aircraft due to icing but i'm pretty sure the pilots had de-icing enabled as this is a standard checklist item.

Third don't ever judge a pilot on his age. A 25 year old can be flying this type of aircraft for 4 years and let's not forget the intensive sim training for getting that type rating. No pilot can fly any passenger aircraft without a type rating, wich is a training specialized for that type of aircraft. Before a pilot takes one passenger to the sky with any airliner you can be sure he/she has done every move, emergency, etc..... untill it's boring in the sim.

I can't take it people almost every time start to blame the pilots.... almost EVERY crash that has ever happened can't be blamed on a pilot error totally, 98% of all crashes happen because a chain of events, not ONE event.

02-16-2009, 01:05 PM
WeirdHomer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Interwebs Posts: 806	Here we go...... even before any investigation is done whatsoever the easyest thing to do is blame the pilots. First of all, turbo props are not unsafe in any way..... Fokker50 is one of the safest aircraft flying and guess what..... it has two turbo prop engines. Even if this was caused by a prop or engine failure in any way i wouldn't doubt stepping on a prop again for a second. Before you say things like that, read up on the difference between props, turbo props and jet engines then come back and say what aircraft you think has the safest engine configuration. Secondly it is perfectly normal flying a short flight on autopilot. Do you ever think about the work load for pilots on short flights? Workload is higher on short flights, remember that! Autopilot is the perfect solution for this. It's not because it's a prop that it doesn't have a fully automated autopilot with ILS. Again, read up on autopilots, ILS, procedures BEFORE you say things like that. Did it ever occur to somebody that the pilots might have been fighting a battle they couldn't win untill the last second of their life? If ice actually was involved then yes, flying on autopilot was not a good choise to make at all, only when you fly by hand you can be fast enough to respond to any quickly changing flying charasteristics of the aircraft due to icing but i'm pretty sure the pilots had de-icing enabled as this is a standard checklist item. Third don't ever judge a pilot on his age. A 25 year old can be flying this type of aircraft for 4 years and let's not forget the intensive sim training for getting that type rating. No pilot can fly any passenger aircraft without a type rating, wich is a training specialized for that type of aircraft. Before a pilot takes one passenger to the sky with any airliner you can be sure he/she has done every move, emergency, etc..... untill it's boring in the sim. I can't take it people almost every time start to blame the pilots.... almost EVERY crash that has ever happened can't be blamed on a pilot error totally, 98% of all crashes happen because a chain of events, not ONE event. Last edited by WeirdHomer; 02-16-2009 at 01:06 PM..