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Originally Posted by TheDoc
It's not a few extra bucks... I know several people that live off of this. I do know of a Canadian band that was making it, from online, but broke up because the singer wanted to go to college.
This is just me.. this story repeats across millions. As an example, my Dad which has had a band with his brother since they were teens. They are the example of a few extra bucks... but that extra $100 or so they have earned - It has driven them to actually make songs rather than copy songs.
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I guess my point is that people can and do use the internet to make money with their band and it gives them a chance to get exposure that before they couldn't have gotten without a record label's help. That said I think that most of these bands are not making a ton of money. They are surviving, but for how long? The half-life of a band is about five years. I guess if you can make a living for five years playing music it is a good deal and you will have some great stories to tell down the road. Most acts don't last that long though and most don't have much success and the reason is because most of them don't have the talent to succeed and because in the end artistic people are kind of flaky. I'm not saying that as a slam, it is just the reality. Bands are like dysfunctional families. Sometimes they work, sometimes they crash and burn.
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Why, because the talent doesn't get the money in music.. which means I'm paying for bullshit over talent.
I'm willing to pay more for movies because they cost millions more to make, millions more to market, and the staff is godly sized.. Has nothing to do with the acting.
To me, none of these entertainers are worth what they are being paid... unless your ass is live and people are willing to pay the cost you set. But people are paying, so it's going to happen.
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This makes no sense to me. So you are willing to pay for a movie because they have a huge crew/cast and cost millions to make and market, but you won't pay for a CD because the money doesn't go to the artist?
When you go to the movie theater your money isn't going directly to the writer, director or cast. They get some of it, but most of them were paid via salary upfront and unless the movie does really well they won't get anything more from it - and in most cases the deal is that they would never get any more no matter how well it does at the box office (although they might get some from DVD sales and other media outlets via deals with the unions). They are often hired help. It is the same with music. The band gets an advance on record sales. Most of the time they never get anything more than that advance unless they sell a truckload of albums and even then it is hard. So cast/crew/creative team being hired by a studio to make a movie that cost millions to make and market = good enough to pay for, but band being paid an advance and recording a record that cost (potentially) millions to make and market = not good enough to pay for.
To me is is messed up logic.
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Really, not a fair question for me. I quit buying them so long ago I can't remember the last CD I actually purchased. No Artist has ever created a full CD that I like every song on - so I don't buy what I don't like.
But I have stacks of burned CD's of legal music I own.
Most of the CD's I listen to, aren't played on any U.S. Radio Stations, not a single one is sold in stores anywhere in this Country, none on any TV in North America. I don't know why but you just can't find good trance/house etc in America - but you can't.
I find my music from streaming sites, sites you don't want me to list. It isn't marketed to it, it's found... And I found Manson came out with a new CD.. I downloaded it, killed the trash, purchased 3 of the songs.
Funny thing is, I only know who AC/DC is, and I know the name REM. No idea who Chris Cornell is, but I know who soundgarden is. I can only tell you one song that AC/DC sings, no wait.. two.. tnt and black and black - are those the names?
That's the marketing these guys do... and why people telling me what music I like, I have to listen to on the radio or in stores - is why the industry is dieing. They have no idea... AC/DC sucks ass... but they still play it.
BTW, I love Classic rock - never paid for it though.
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I love classic rock too, but can't stand house/trance music. So on that we differ. Again, you are an exception, you are not the rule. There are a lot of people who like trance/house music, but as I said before most people don't care enough about music to take the time to look into it and discover what they really like. Most hear things on the radio and buy the CD or download the song they like. They don't dig deep into themselves and decide what they like or for some music just doesn't mean that much. If they can shake their ass to it or it makes them bob their head or they can sing along, that is good enough. IMO until that changes there will be no internet music revolution.