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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays
open tube8.com and point out the stolen movies.
i have no interest in going through all this point for point indefinitely. i respect your views and opinions. i happen to disagree.
if you don't understand how they are ranking number 1-2-3 for all the hottest porn terms, and think that's just because random kids are posting useless, low value backlinks in forums while they upload stolen videos, then you're mistaken. that's not how they target specific words and phrases and that's not how you rank number 1 for the webs strongest adult terms.
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Okay. I have to respectfully completely and totally disagree with you on that. It's a numbers game and that's been my real world experience. And I definitely don't think it's "kids" uploading. RemoveYourContent.Com could open your eyes in a quick hurry how massive the pirating is and who does it and how it spreads like wildfire across forums that are bigger than you would have ever thought just 2 years ago.
I guess when it comes to the big tube sites and the torrents I have a dual perspective from being in the traffic and tgp game for a long time AND being a content producer and paysite owner. I know how traffic works and how the numbers game will force the search engines to acknowledge you without much effort on your part because I did it. Hell, I didn't even notice it we were so big at one point.
These days more and more people use google for everything they go to. And when you type in "free porn" in google you are going to get those tube sites because they are the biggest in the world.
And I'd bet that search engine traffic they get is infinitesimal to their overall numbers. I'd also bet that it's nowhere near as valuable as you might think. Simply because it's people searching for free shit. Yeah, some of it will convert. Just saying not as much as other more valuable keywords and phrases will.
I'd much rather have the top spot for "milf" or "big tits" or "hardcore sex" or a hundred other keywords I can think of. Hell, look for "hardcore sex" and you'll see Worldsex there near the top.
Do you think Pierre is spending a lot of time working on SEO? I doubt it. It's numbers in that case.