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Originally Posted by fmltube
The only reason I have not outed them yet is because they say they are going over the system to see if there is a glitch and I'm not asshole, I'll give them their time and if they do not deliver, then its out they come.
If I do the work, I deserve to be paid for my efforts provided I adhere to the TOS for promoting the sponsor. Again, you miss the point. If you steal money earned from my pocket, fuck yeah I'm gonna rip your content and make sure I make my money I am earned.
You can be tired of affiliates raising the questions of "fraud cards" or shaving but you are foolish if you do not think it occurs. It happened when times were good and I am positive that is occurring that times are bad. That said, I am sure its a small number if it is occurring. But honestly, what power does affiliates have IF it is occurring? Not send any more traffic? Big deal. The affiliate would still be out money in the end.
Do any programs have their program books audited by an independent third party to make sure all affiliates are being paid correctly? Furthermore, why if a customer uses a fraudulent CC to get some free porn without the affiliate knowing what has occurred should lose all of their sales and not just the fraudulent one?
I am all for ethical biz practices provided everyone plays by the rules. The second anyone breaks those rules, they should expect the same done to them. You want "turn the other cheek"? Go get religion. Biz is "eye for an eye". Everyone else does it, why not me? (note, Im not saying steal for the fun or profit of it but Im sure you will find a way to twist it to that.)
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OK, I'm going to pick this apart a little and try not to be a complete dick.
1) If this program is going over their system then I would have given them a few days of due diligence. But if what you say is true about this program saying they are going over their system then I call bullshit. A sign up is a sign up. It shows up. I get sign up details quickly. I hold off payments when I want to make sure credits don't show up late or we get slammed by chargebacks. There are early signs that this might happen. If what you are saying is true then the program is most likely fucking you over. I have always been clearly up front when I held anyone's payments. Look on this board for an example of this. Always up front. I just hope you are not saying this to help your case.
2) I did not miss your point. If I piss on your front yard tomorrow I know you will come to my front yard and piss on it as well. Stop saying you will do the same thieving tactics. It doesn't make you look good. Two wrongs don't make a right even if it feels really good sometimes.
3) Do you do any due diligence on the company you are going to promote before you promote them? I do know there are plenty of shit programs/businesses out there. I just get tired of hearing the same bullshit whine grouping programs together. I challenge anyone to see any program I am associated with shaving or playing the fraud card (without valid reason) to get out of paying anything.
4) Business is not about "Everyone else is doing it so I will." Business is about survival. Survival is about adapting. There is a reason that we got out of the pay site business years ago. We knew where it was heading. We adapted and continue to adapt. It is those that flounder that complain the loudest about recent trends.