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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon
the big difference between vcr's and torrents is that blank vcr tapes were needed and a portion of the price was a tax to cover lost advertising revenue.
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bullshit when vcr first came out no such tax existed.
so that arguement is total crap.
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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
totally ignorant comparison. We have all seen every torrent site has stolen content, i have never seen a porn site with cp.
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really tvtorrents.com
that site removes any content that has not aired on tv
direct to dvd stuff like bsg the plan are not allowed until they air on tv (and therefore fall under the fair use doctrine of timeshifting)
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public domain tv shows ? or stolen copyright tv shows ?
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fuck nut, you have a right to timeshift copyright protected content. A tv show that is protected by copyright is legally allowed to be timeshifted. With a VCR or a CLOUD.
it doesn't have to be public domain to be legal. It not stolen period.
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besides the whole "sharing it" with people who don't have the right to view it.
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and those people should be prosecuted
like i keep saying
leave the tracker alone
leave the seeders alone
leave the leachers with a fair use right alone
go after the leachers with no fair use right
given the fact that 99.5% (according to the US census) have at least 1 tv (95% have two tvs or more) that only .5% of the population.
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I wasn't aware the rico act extended to the netherlands, but now that you have made us aware we will simply push the "rico arrest button" under our chairs..
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every country has organized crime statutes moron, of course since fucknut who started this thread wanted them to honor US laws even though they were not US citizens.
It is interesting how you are calling me on doing the exact same thing as the thread starter
Gotcha
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You may believe you do , but others dont agree. A computer and a vcr are vastly differen't things.
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fair use rights and the exclusive rights of the copyright holder were granted by the exact same act. If i told you that all your exclusive right disappeared every time it was distributed over a new technology, you would scream bloody murder.
So why the fuck do you believe that it ok to take away the fair use right that have ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED every time a new technology is created to allow you take advantage of that right.
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isn't your whole excuse (timeshifting) based on an american law decision ? Funny how you pick and choose which laws to agree with. Last i heard the netherlands were not in the usa , neither is canada 
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The US law was the last one to make that decision
Canada made that ruling years ago
The EU is further a head not only making that ruling years before canada, but establish the bases for ACCESS SHIFTING (1 download != 1 lost sale).
I have predicted for more than 2 years that US ruling would happen BASED ON THE PREVIOUS RULINGS from CANADA and EU.
Now that it finally equal to every where else your trying to argue that those previous ruling disappeared.
WTF.