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Old 10-29-2009, 08:25 PM  
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you made the arguement that every torrent site has stolen content on it
i pointed you to a torrent site that was dedicated to tv shows after they aired only.
amd i pointed out that just because someone is doing it doesn't make it legal, there is no provision in the copyright laws saying its ok to give away tv shows after they air.

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Where the only purpose was the moving of the viewing time of show from day 1 to day 2
cept all the people that dont have the right to the show that download it..






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you can claim that EVERY torrent site is filled with stolen content.
actually i did just above.



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broadcast time-shifted by private viewers (i.e., recorded at a time when the VTR owner cannot view the broadcast so that it can be watched at a later time

satisfies this standard of noninfringing uses both because respondents have no right to prevent other copyright holders from authorizing such time-shifting for their programs and because the District Court's findings reveal that even the unauthorized home time-shifting of respondents' programs is legitimate fair use

http://supreme.justia.com/us/464/417/case.html
so in a nutshell you changed all the words around to make it into something completely different, there is no law that says anything about timeshifting or clouds or any of the other nonsense. you are quoting a case result about vcr's, highly doubtfull thats going to be a precedent over a completely unrelated item.



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i discussed it quite completely
yet you cant actually quote it.. ok then

lets see this LAW that says timeshifting tv shows is fair use, post it , dont post links to other links that you spin more bullshit.

If you search a crack dealer without telling him his rights, the case will likely be thrown out , doesnt make selling crack legal.


and all the shows on tv are free right ? everyone gets every channel free ?

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so you believe RICO is part of copyright law
so you believe boiling old ladies in hot oil is legal

oh wait you never said that and i never said rico was part of the copyright act..


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i defend fair use, not copyright theft, there is no theft because as i pointed out fair use is not an infringement.
i could call anything fair use , doesn't make it fair use.

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so now your arguing that none of the court established fair use exist.
timeshifting
format shifting
backup recovery
if thats what i said , then yes, the slight problem in your thinking is i never said anything remotely similar to that, makes me wonder whether any of the giberish you spit has any basis.

the courts may have ruled for or against certain cases , doesnt make other cases legal.

but dont take my word for it. start an hbo timeshift website and see how long you last, you talk alot of talk yet i dont see any action..

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Those rules make any of those court established fair use JUST AS VALID AS THE ONES GRANTED EXPLICTLY by the act.
in the specific examples ruled upon. just as why parody fair use cases often go either way , why , because just cuz you call it "fair use" doesnt make it so. Just cuz you call it a pardoy doesnt make it one.






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the new technology is the swarm. Timeshifting using a swarm is superior to the old pvr way because their is no limit on storage space (swarm = infinite storage), it never loses power, misses a show due to user error, never loses the content due to accidental deletion, allows me to jump into a show after it aired for months, etc.
and it has no ability to discern if the people using the swarm have the legal right to do so.


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not psychic just logic


please tell me the logical ruling of every court case currently awaiting trial as you are obviously much smarter than a judge or any lawyer.. as you can predict results without having even heard evidence or sat at a trial.


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That the bases of my predictions (all of which have been right so far)
i probably don't need to tell you this but , you are seriously deluded. You may want to seek professional help..

If you talk yourself in circles because its fun to do , then by all means go right ahead , if you actually believe half of what you say, you have serious problems.
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