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Originally Posted by TheDoc
To me socialism in gov and libertarianism are vastly different in nature - if you have one you must have the other. You could have a major socialist gov and still have mostly libertarian values towards the people as they are the ones in control over the social agendas.
Every successful gov in the world has had social agendas. But the most simple idea of libertarianism has proven to already fail, time and time again - without control, the places rip itself apart and open the door for dictators.
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Sorry doc, but I'm going to have to disagree here.... Libertarianism has NEVER been tried. The closest we have come on a large scale, was the earliest days of the USA.... and that has quickly evolved far away from it, but not resulting in dictatorship.
It has never been tried in Europe. All European governments evolved from dictatorships, sometimes called monarchies.
As for people being "involved in social agenda's", there is no room in Libertarianism for people to have the right to tell someone else ANYTHING regarding "social agenda's" without the persons voluntary co-operation. As soon as you legistlate the use of force to control a "social agenda", you go away from actual Libertarianism.
