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Originally Posted by TheDoc
I didn't claim that, you did...
I'm sure trials can see everything with most paysites, they just can't access them all. They purchased a trial, that's what they got... They can test the features out, make sure they have what they said they do, make sure videos work, features work, login works, etc.. some give more than others, then the member upgrades for everything.
Whatever your view is, at the end of the day members don't agree with you, the numbers simply don't support your view. It's very simple logic.
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i said while talking about a tour that sold the right to download but had the limited trial buried in the TOS
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wow i can't believe you are actually justifying making one sales pitch and then burying a limitation in the fine print.
look at mainstream business when they do something like that TOS falls in the way of the purchase, and is unclickable i accept until the person scrolls to the bottom of the TOS.
there is at least a reasonably credible arguement that the person saw the TOS and it therefore binding
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you claimed
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Originally Posted by TheDoc
It doesn't have to be in the terms at all, it still isn't fraud...
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so if you don't tell them about the limit on the tour, and you don't tell them in the terms at all how exactly would the customer know what definition of "trial" they are agreeing to when they join.
btw
that exactly what brazzers did in this case and you justified it with every arguement you made about how it was legitimate.
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Originally Posted by TheDoc
And... Gideon, are you questioning our Industry our some peoples Business ethics when you basically think it's okay that paysites get pirated, that fair use is some how fair to paysites, that because paysites aren't doing some fake magic voodoo that nobody can find on torrents, that they are all losing out, its some how the paysites fault?
Please.... questioning what or how we do things. You need to stick a sock in it.
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wow for someone who keeps complaining about me making up statements about what you said you really believe saying "it okay that paysites get pirated" is a legitimate representation of my statements.
especially when your trying to justify lying on your tour because of piracy
newsflash
providing a limited trial and telling people about the tour would protect you from piracy just as much as providing a limited trial and not telling them on the tour.
In terms of "protecting" your content there is no difference.
So bring that issue up is just a red hering to try and justify being a lying scumbag.
IF you were right and the customer didn't care/expected the limits
then telling them the truth on the tour would adversely effect your sales one bit.
so why do all the porn sites not do it the same way as netflix and explictly spell out the limits right on the tour.