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Originally Posted by CDSmith
Lost, yes. Amp is just clarifying the why of it. And he's right. Had the US military not been so handcuffed over there that war would have turned out vastily different. For one thing, the VC died by the hundreds of thousands. 1.1 million total, according to the North Vietnamese gov't. The US? By comparison a mere 58 thousand and change. In the Vietnam airspace the kill ratios were staggeringly lopsided in favor of the US.
In this case "we lost" just doesn't quite say it. The fact is the other side had the numbers, the US had the equipment and training but operated on the whim of a group on polititians and a country that wasn't in support of the war. There's very little doubt that had the US gone whole hog in that war, well, it's no mystery what new outcome would have been.
"We lost" yes, but I think in this case the 'why' is an importan consideration. And TheKing is right, those vids you posted were of the S Vietnam military being defeated, not the US military, who had pulled out long before that. Had they not pulled out none of that would have happend, the war would have gone on indefinitely or until the US leaders (and people) decided to step it up and throw 100% of their military effort at it.
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Look bro, the Tet offensive, although not decisive for the Vietcong, showed clearly
the the Vietcong had infiltrated the south and were not contained as much as
previous believed.
It was a sign that the war was now in a futile stage because the enemy was now
everywhere.
That's when we launched a "last ditch effort" and killed a bunch of cong so we
could pull out looking good.
The equivalent of the "Iraqi Surge". "Hit them hard, show big force, then get the
fuck out looking as good as we can"; because we can kill them all but we still can't
get the kind of victory we need to make it all make sense.
Facing the truth is just something that my fellow Americans have a real hard time
doing no matter whether it's war, racism, stock market, housing etc..etc...
We are the most stubborn of minds to have ever assemble into a nation.
Peace out.
Shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I give the fuck up.