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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing
So Far-L, would you do business with The Pirate Bay? After all, there's no proof anyone working there uploaded a single torrent file. And they aren't required to comply with DMCA laws since it's a US law.
So by the rationale you've laid out to us, there should be nothing stopping you from seeing any problem with the ethics of The Pirate Bay.
Here's the thing man, you're entitled to do business with whomever you want. We can criticize you for it, but at the end of the day it's your decision to make as a business owner. Where I think you really insulted the intelligence of a lot of people is when you started down the path of "show me evidence" that Brazzers has ever done anything wrong. You're taking pages out of the Jules Denial Jordan playbook there.
Stick to your guns on your decision to do business with them, but don't come in here defending Brazzers like they're squeaky clean.
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Seriously, first let me thank you for actually raising debatable points rather than just attacking me personally. The difference in Pirate Bay is they would not take content down and that is why they got into the hassles they got into, worldwide, regardless of US copyright laws, so that answer is provided based on the reality of how they conducted biz. Sure, we could post our clips there with some branding but that was all we could do to address them using our content without permission. Therefore they are a different problem and not the same beast of a problem as the tubes.
To say that I am denying what you and others say about Brazzers is inaccurate also. I am not going to determine their guilt based on what is essentially hearsay arguments and circumstantial evidence that runs counter to our own experience. I am suspicious of them but I am suspicious of you, Steve, and everyone else here and I don't trust anyone in this biz for the most part. However, for us, they are innocent until PROVEN guilty and not the other way around. I hope you get my point.
To sum it up... I don't defend their innocence or prove their guilt. I just found that we could address any problems we had with our content going up easily and professionally and in the way that market conditions dictated. Same with Youporn and other tubes that would take down our stuff with appropriate notices.
I am not familiar enough with the start of Brazzers to comment on what they did in the beginning, but knowing the history of this industry, the idea that people used content without permission is not a surprise. An inconvenience yes, but par for the course - albeit unfortunately.
Anyway, I feel like I am in the midst of the same deluge Shap went through on this score a couple years back.