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Nathan · 10-06-2010, 07:58 PM

DWB, if $450 USD a month is not worth it for you to nolonger have to police your 10 newest videos on 16 of the biggest tubesites, then what would ever be?

I understand that there are mom & pop shops around everywhere, but $450 USD a month? EVERYONE here complains how all the tubes steal their content and cause them to make less money, if $450 USD a month is too much, how much less money are you making because of the tubes stealing content?

Or are you now saying you are making less money simply because the tubes exist? If that is the case, then your problem is not piracy, its the fact that tubes are in your opinion hard to compete against.

$450 USD is basically 10 sales a month or 1 sale every 3 days. Are you losing less sales than that because of the tubes in your opinion thus its not worth it? I am trying to figure out where the problem specifically is.

I also think you should talk to someone like RYC or Degban and discuss how much money they actually want to DMCA your content for you, you might find it cheaper than you think it actually is.

DMCA has become a cost of doing business in this and any other media industry. And as you said yourself, its not mainly the tubes, its the filesharing sites and torrents. I understand that it pisses people off, but me closing our tubes would not a) make anyone more money and b) lower the amount of work DMCA wise you have to accomplish. It will simply shift our traffic to tubes and other sites which are much harder to deal with than we obviously are.

I can not change the past, and blaming me for it does not help anyone either. I think I have shown plenty of times by now that I am willing to work with everyone and I am by far the least of your problems piracy wise. You should actually prefer me controlling these tubes than most other big tube site owners out there.

10-06-2010, 07:58 PM
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	DWB, if $450 USD a month is not worth it for you to nolonger have to police your 10 newest videos on 16 of the biggest tubesites, then what would ever be? I understand that there are mom & pop shops around everywhere, but $450 USD a month? EVERYONE here complains how all the tubes steal their content and cause them to make less money, if $450 USD a month is too much, how much less money are you making because of the tubes stealing content? Or are you now saying you are making less money simply because the tubes exist? If that is the case, then your problem is not piracy, its the fact that tubes are in your opinion hard to compete against. $450 USD is basically 10 sales a month or 1 sale every 3 days. Are you losing less sales than that because of the tubes in your opinion thus its not worth it? I am trying to figure out where the problem specifically is. I also think you should talk to someone like RYC or Degban and discuss how much money they actually want to DMCA your content for you, you might find it cheaper than you think it actually is. DMCA has become a cost of doing business in this and any other media industry. And as you said yourself, its not mainly the tubes, its the filesharing sites and torrents. I understand that it pisses people off, but me closing our tubes would not a) make anyone more money and b) lower the amount of work DMCA wise you have to accomplish. It will simply shift our traffic to tubes and other sites which are much harder to deal with than we obviously are. I can not change the past, and blaming me for it does not help anyone either. I think I have shown plenty of times by now that I am willing to work with everyone and I am by far the least of your problems piracy wise. You should actually prefer me controlling these tubes than most other big tube site owners out there. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger