tblocker

LOL, thanks for taking the time to answer, made me have tons of more questions, lets start:

Could you please be more specific with this: "But your first logic flaw here is that you are trying to sue people for something that is legal." ... I'm still not sure which part you claim is legal, the copyrights infringement tubes did/are doing or the unfair competition one.

About this part of your answer: "Also, one thing... if you really think people owning both ends of the stick, like we do, have any interest in destroying one end of it which will obviously destroy the whole stick in the end, then oh well, what can I say.... there are others out there, that only own tube sites, which you should be much more concerned with", both doing copyrights infringements and unfair competition worry me, anyone stealing others work/job unfairly worries me, off course the big ones are the ones that make more impact and are the first ones that should be taken down if what i'm saying is liable to set an example/presedence

"Regarding your unfair competition... at what point would it be fair in your opinion? If it cost $1? or $5? Or $10? What about Videobox.com, or our own Moviebox.com .... I am sure you will at some point come in and claim that is unfair competition too, since you can join for $19.99 and get more full length movies than any tube on the planet has... in HD too!"

Not familiar with Moviebox, i only think i saw it promoted inside brazzers members area a couple of times and always wondered why they did that, Brazzers people are not stupid and that site is clearly selling something good, i mean, if i have a small paysite i would never upsell brazzers on my members area, now i understand Still, going back to your comment: If you charge anything, its fair ;) If you can afford it of having it for one buck, don't loose that chance, you will have pretty more clients

"BTW, since you keep wondering, we spend 7 figures on content licenses specifically for the tubes regularly."

As a side note, thanks for the inside information, as your signature claims you are part from manwin/mansef, which its up to my understanding the owners of the tubes that many of us think are destroying the very same business you should protecting as being also up to what is my understanding owners of Brazzers too? .... Please let me know if i'm confused as you seem to be really nice and willing to disclose all this information without any regards as you are very sure all you are doing is pretty legal, please illustrate myself and other so at least I stop aparently this huge stupid thing i'm thinking.

Could you be please be more specific about this comment also: "BTW, since you keep wondering, we spend 7 figures on content licenses specifically for the tubes regularly."

You mean Tube8, PornHub, etc spends on licenses for streaming whole movie footages for free on their sites from "lazy" producers about 7 figures regularily, what is regularily btw? Monthly, Anually?

I'm still wondering why you then need user uploaded content if you are buying that much content? I never see that content .... I mean, i only see studios content, so, or its uploaded by users illegally or its stolen by the tubes owner, and as you claim you spend a lot of money on licenses, why bother having a users uploading scheme when they only use it to upload content they don't own their copyrights as we all know there is no amateur content on these sites And being able to spend that much money, i guess you have a huge infrastructure, i guess it would had more sense to have someone approving only amateur/real users generated content?

EDIT: btw, one more question, how much of the whole movies we see on tube8, pornhub, etc are licensed? Just a heads up, if you own the sites, make this quick maths from your DB ( if you gave me your DB description i could even give you the MySQL query to get the results ) : Total Ammount Of Scenes Over 10 minutes - ( Total Of Scenes You Have Licenses For Over 10 Minutes + Total Of Scenes You aknowledged are user generated over 10 minutes ( Meaning from no studio which you could be infringing copyrights ) )

The result will i think give a huge percentage of illegal content as i already said, i don't see much amateur/user generated content on your sites, just studios ones, so the result for that query would give me more or less the idea of how many scenes you are streamming for which you have no right to do so, probably at least 40% of that ammount of scenes would be violating copyrights ( User uploaded or not, which is not a good thing, i guess you think like me on this ...... )