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Originally Posted by DirtyDanza
I dunno dood... I trained with many gracie's and I like to think I have great back skills...
ive never not gotten a choke once I get someones back for say the last year...
even with 16's on
The proper name is Mata Leon which translates to Lion Kill they don't call it that cause it's an easy choke to get out of....
im fairly certian that if I was to take your back you can do all the judo and slamming you want to and ill still get ya to sleep.. it's just nature of the beast.... there is no way you can slam me when im on your back that's going to really hurt me or get me to release my "seatbelt" (other jits guys know the seatbelt) and once you reach up to start fighting my hands well thast why I got my seatbelt on you... no matter which hand you go to im choking you with other hand....
and btw the smaller a person is the easier they lock chokes in on your properly.... small wrist = good chokes as robert drysdale ... he has really shitty jits but he has very small wrists and lands chokes all day long motherfucker can land flying armbars all day long buy lost worlds to a fucking lapel choke... white belt 101 shit.....
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As a trained fighter going against another fighter, put in that position, they probably couldn't get out of it - but again, that's not what we're talking about.
The topic twisted when I said my wife can't hold me in a chock hold or arm bar, and all of you went nuts.. and you said "once in the position a kid should be able to hold it no matter how strong the attacker is" - which is bullshit when my two boys can't move me if I don't want them to, let alone hold me, same goes for my wife.
Clearly, my wife and kids aren't trained... so trying to compare trained fighters, that we already know the out come of, is very pointless.