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Originally Posted by kane
Answer me this. If a movie company was forced to release their movie in all formats on the day of its offical release, but they modified thier prices as such how you you feel:
Ticket at theater: $8-$10 depending on the theater.
Pay per view: $12. You have to pay a few more dollars for the convenience of seeing it at home.
Rental from blockbuster: $12 same reason as above.
DVD purchase: $35. The DVD price will drop to $15 in 30 days, but if you want it the day it comes out you have to pay a premium price.
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if those were the prices set by the market competiton between the venues yes that fine.
If that was the price dictated by copyright holder then that price fixing and no.
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Would that fit your fair use model? It is available to everyone on that day. It is in all formats, but if you want the convenience of watching it in your home or owning it on DVD the day of the release you have to pay a premium price.
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if that what the MARKET dictates fine, if it what the copyright holder dictates no.
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BTW, you are getting away from the original argument as per normal and in this post your first answer actually contradicts your second answer. First you argue that the movie industry is forcing people to over pay for a product, but then you argue that they shouldn't be forced to sell under value. Yet you want to force them to distribute their movie in the format you want at the price point you want. You can't have it both ways. You can tell someone how to sell their product and force them to do it your way then tell them that it is free market. Where I grew up we called that pissing on someones back and telling them it was raining.
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forcing you to use market price determination is not forcing you to sell under value.
taking away the copyright holders "right" to control the timeline of release simply forces them to sell their good at a market driven price.
if thor was release on the same day
marvel studios would go to every single theater chain and say who wants the exclusive right to distribute this movie on their medium and the highest paying theater chain would get that right
the same for tv stations
the same for ppv channel providers
the same for dvd distributors
based on what they paid, the purchase price would be determined for the end consumer.
stop thinking your entitled to set the price and everyone has to pay whatever you say,
that monopoly thinking, competition exist for every other industry.
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This whole argument started with your link to the article explaining why copyright holders should have no say in the laws/policies that control then. I explained how the guys examples were flawed and why I felt he was wrong and now you are going back around the same circles you always spin
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your new analogy was exactly the same as the old analogy,
you argued that the military should have control over what congress appropriation bill
once that failed you actually went back to a specific example OF a copyright holder
Do you understand how astromonically stupid that is
your arguing the analogy is wrong, because
you can't possible make an anology at all.