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Old 05-04-2011, 12:44 PM  
kane
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Originally Posted by gideongallery View Post
so denying a monopoly abuse as bad as demanding that you want reruns at the time of broadcasting

or as bad as demanding that you demanding you buy 7 songs you don't want just to get the 3 you do

is socialism

i notice you still haven't explained why studios are $3-4 of extra profits is legitimate when the $3 extra (in tv case ) or the $7 (in CD case) wasn't enough to justify denying the fair use.

You might want to lookup the word socialism breaking down a monopoly is by definition a capatilist ideal.




except in the case of butt fuck nowhere you added some other impossible conditions

you skipped right by netflix mailing you the movie

and you skipped right by buying the movie on dvd from amazon

to jump straight to getting it for free from the pirate bay.


all so you could fabricate the claim my arguement is just an attempt to justify taking the content for free.

there is no way to getting the right to download it legally for free in the real world because even backwater town isn't so tiny it cut off from the US postal service.

That the point

you have to make up an impossible situation to get the content for free legally



what exactly about the statement



do you not understand

do you think marvel studio sends reps to every single hick town to negotiate their movies showing one theater at a time

Hell NO

they assign the right EXCLUSIVELY to a middle man like lion's gate

lions gate (this would be the exclusive buyer i am talking about)
goes to the theater chains (famous players) and sell them first run rights exclusively
your backwater theater would get the movie rights to broadcast by going to the chain that has the exclusive first run rights and agreeing to pay the fee (usually 100% of ticket sales for the first week, 75% second week and 50% for all remaiing weeks).

the only difference between what happening now and what i am talking about is that

first run won't be for all mediums , just theaters.
the parallel distribution channels like DVD/PPV/Broadcast TV would be "allowed" to compete for the viewers.









since i am not talking about changing the current liciencing in any way but time delay between releases

if this was accurate your actually arguing for a complete ban against such towns.

while i am arguing for enough choice that there is at least a potential to see the content.



i get that your arguements are insanely stupid, your ignoring the US postal services existance to jump right by netflix and amazon to claim a free download which doesn't exist will exist.


No one is that stupid.




except your not forcing them to do anything

your just talking away the special control granted by one act for any medium they CHOOSE delberately exclude from competition.

That a consequence of an abuse

that no different that saying you will go to jail if you kill someone

no one is forcing you to stop killing, if you want to kill someone you just choose to accept the consequence if you do.
Again it is pointless for this to go on. Clearly I feel the movie companies distributing movies the way they do now is not a monopoly and even if it were it is only for a limited time because within about 3-4 months of a movies release it starts to roll out into different formats and at different price levels. I see competition for these movies in theater between other movies and even other theaters. The theater in my little butt fuck nowhere town charges $8 for a ticket, while another theater that is about 15 miles away and is a little bigger, has nicer chairs and bigger screens charges $11 per ticket. Right there is competition.

You, on the other hand, want to force companies to do things your way. You want to dictate to them how they sell their product regardless of the potential financial loss or burden it puts on them. Regardless of whether a movie only being in theaters is or is not a monopoly, a government telling an industry how it will operate and controlling how it will sell its product is socialism. It is the definition of socialism. Your idea is so far fetched and so far out there that it isn't possible to pull of on a logistical scale. The bottom like is that you are a just another member of what I call Generation Me. You want it your way on your terms and if you don't get it you want people to be forced to give it to you that way. It is sad really.
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