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Old 06-13-2011, 05:55 AM  
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Originally Posted by rock-reed View Post
The Affiliate Biz Model is Broken and has Always Been Broken!

As an affiliate... Myself... We just didn't care before... because we were making money.
And in most cases, We never bitched to the Programs we pushed- We didn't care. Checks were flying in.


PLEASE READ MY THOUGHTS:

We live in a more enlightened porn world... You're crazy if you think you send traffic via Your affiliate links that most surfers would sign up right then and there.

They see the site, they take time and think about it and do some searches on it.

They come back a few days later or even a week or month and then go straight to the paysite and bypass Your affiliate links completely. The paysite gets the signup, but you do not get paid as an affiliate.

This has Always happened... but its more prevalent now as:

1) Pay sites have fucked over members in the past... great tours, but shitty content on inside

2) Pay sites have fucked over members by trying to upsell or not let them cancel

3) Surfers are overall more savvy and understand overall search better and they do some basic research before buying in to a paysite.

4) Porn surfers are desensitized to porn to a degree and they no longer buy spontaneously.Sure there is still a Lonely, Drunk Jeff on a Friday night that buys immediately. But this is no longer The Norm.


Also----As time goes by.... many people cancel a paysite they love.... They will routinely join again after 6 months, a year... or sometimes even several years. This is a known fact as I have talked to several popular paysite owners about it.


With this said... What do you think we can do from the Affiliate Angle to help with untreated problem?
1) simply untrue. its easy and cheap to load a paysite with a ton of content. Thinking you need exclusive content to succeed is the false idea promoted by content producers.
show big, long, clear fuck and suck movies and you're showing what every porn buyer wants. Everything else is irrelevant. Porn sites are not ripping off surfers.

2) simply untrue. An upsell is not fucking over the member and not being able to cancel causes CBs. The bane of the paysite owner unless your a slash and burn thief and that small number of guys has pretty much been elliminated from the biz.

3) wrong. Surfers do not "research" porn. The search a little, see something they like, and buy. "research" is a fallacy promoted by review sites.

4) incorrect. porn is always an impulse buy. Also, your thoughts on surfers returning much later and cutting you out of a commission are wrong too. However, even if its true 1% of the time, you're still vastly over paid on the value of a join so you're already compensated for that 1%

Stop blaming the program owners. If you're not making money, its YOUR fault.
Ifd what you do makes you $50.00 a day, multiply what you're doing by 10. Then you're making $500.00 a day.
You lazy assed affiliates are your own only problem. You never worked a hard day in your life so you think that multiplying how hard you work AT A FUCKING KETBOARD is "hard work"
its not.
The ONLY part of this negative equation that lies with the pay site owner is coddling you clowns to the point that your need to be an innovative risk taker (what's needed to succeed in any business) has been completely stifled because you get free hosting, free content, new tours every other day, custom banners, etc. etc.
Those of us who have been successful for over a decade did all of these things ourselves! Because we did, we learned! Because you don't, you whine.

its no more difficult than that, no matter what guys with a few months experience say.
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