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Originally Posted by Bill8
One of the risks of using rhetoric the way you do is that it leads to a tendency to distort ALL information, not just the political information you think you are attacking.
In this case, for instance, you attribute to me talk of conspiracies and uptopias, when I almost never use the first term and never use the second.
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"You" in the general sense, not you personally. The people on this forum.
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You say that whatever replaces the current system will also tend to be corrupted. Obviously this is true.
But, we can at least fix the gaping loophole that allows the corpocracy to rule - by instituting a strong policy of electoral reform and strict public funding of candidates.
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Do you think most voters are brainless or informed? If it's the former, I'm not sure how this is going to change anything, other than idiotic candidates. If it's the latter, well then I praise you for your optimism.
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We have to ban the legalized bribery of private funding of candidates, and by doing so, make politicians fear the voter more than the funder.
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This goes back to my question. What if the majority of voters are morons? Should the politicians fear those morons?
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I'd like to take that a step further and institute laws controlling the revolving door between political office and government employment and corporate employment, but let's take that one step at a time.
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Now THAT is interesting.
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You set up a false choice between rule by the rich and rule by the ignorant poor - altho, I'd liek to point out that in the tea party phenomena we see an exampel of the fusion of rule by the rich AND rule by the ignorant poor.
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It wasn't a false choice because I'm not sure there is a middle ground. We have to come to terms that most people on this earth are NOT intelligent so I'm not sure what choices there are.
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However, I don't see the real problem as being one of rich versus poor - the real thing that is happening is the competition between managed and unmanaged economies (technically between more managed and less amanged economies).
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This is a whole new discussion in itself. I think we both recognize the pros and cons of both types of economies, yet I still lean towards the unmanaged.
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So, your false choice is also an incorrect model - this isn't about wether the rich rule or the poor rule - it's about managing the economy.
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And who do you propose manages the economy? The 'informed" voter or politician who at one point or another is going to sacrifice his morals?