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Originally Posted by NetHorse
Get off that shit, it has 1,3-dimethylamylamine which is garbage.
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1,3-dimethylamylamine = geranium.
i find biotest products to be garbage as well. most of the time they don't even list ingredients and when they do, they are sub-standard.
but i think the pre-workout supps are way way way overrated, not to mention the roi is simply not there when you look at the cost v. results.
not to mention all of the proprietary mixes. fuck, they skirt the rules bigtime and come up with the most unreadable labels on anything that is ingested.
here are a couple ( not saying this product is garbage, but even so, wtf is all this nonsens? lolz!
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Tri-pHasic
How about another industry first....again. The TripHasic Blend's method of execution is genius. N-alpha-acetyl-carnosine (AACA) has never been used in a nutrition product for oral delivery. It was way too expensive and too hard to attain, and besides that, no formulators had even heard of it. Well, ULTIMA? is about using the best ingredients and being groundbreaking...so we did it anyway.
How about a Nootropic blend called Cogni-Five that will push your Mind-muscle connection to the limit?* Faster firing.* Quicker thinking.* Strength to burn.* Lightning reaction time.* Stronger.* Faster.* Better.*
And no one else can come close to replicating Cogni-Five; the dose of methylcobalamin alone would be more expensive than the cost of this entire product if attempted by other companies. We did not set out to raise the bar with ULTIMA?, we came to destroy it.
With ingredients like L-Tyrosine, N-Acetyl Tyrosine, Alpha-GPC, CDP-Choline, and PEA...hold on, and forget stimulants...you'll be outlifting and outrunning all the over-stimmed and underperforming competitors.* Oh and it used to be five in the beta, but we decided to kick the brain in to overdrive and rock your workout like never before.*
Methyl-8-R Complex
The never seen before Methyl-8-R Complex pulls it all together. All of it. Remember how this is about biochemistry; about your biochemistry? ULTIMA? is not just some hodge-podge of kitchen-sink ingredients. It is about specific pathways, specific substrates and specific enzymes that act on those substrates. Like everything else in ULTIMA? the Methyl-8-R complex utilizes only ingredients in their most active forms and in their optimal doses.*
These eight ingredients are the fuse to the "powder keg" known as ULTIMA?. It is why ULTIMA? will get you amped up for a workout with zero caffeine and zero stimulants.* It is really that advanced. Coenzymated forms of awesome B-vitamins that turn this crank, such as Riboflavin-5-Phosphate, methylcobalamin, Formyl-THF, and Pyridoxal-5-Phosphate.
Most companies would have stopped there, but we kept on going.
Those coenzymes need co-nutrients to push a dedicated metabolic pathway, so we kept going so you will keep going in the gym and on the field.* For instance, utilizing an efficacious form of zinc for bioavailability and synergy, an amino acid chelate of manganese, selenium bound to methionine, formyl-Tetrahydrofolate...not "folic acid". All of these in their most effective forms and the most effective doses.* Period.
EnduraMAX Performance Blend
Yes, there are a small of performance-enhancing carbohydrates that lend synergy to the other nutrients here.* As you can guess by now, we wouldn't have just some cheap sugar in our formulas like the competitors do. Why slack on the formula now? Chirally Pure D-glucose, chirally pure D-glucopyranoside (trehalose), and pure fructooligosaccharide (FOS) prebiotic carbohydrate provide the carbohydrates in ULTIMA?. Five grams per serving may not sound like much and for low-carbohydrate athletes it isn't, but what makes this blend special are the forms and doses. This carbohydrate blend is highly effective at promoting the health and performance of the athlete.* No hitting the wall and stopping here - just run right through it.*
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a piece of fruit or 2 and, if needed, a cup of coffee does the trick. healthier, cheaper, and better.