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Originally Posted by bns666
NetHorse did you at least check the ingredients of Surge?
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Yes, I did. It has 1,3-Dimethylamylamine and arginine which are both garbage. It has some nice ingredients though like ALA and grape seed extract.
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Originally Posted by dyna mo
1,3-dimethylamylamine = geranium.
i find biotest products to be garbage as well. most of the time they don't even list ingredients and when they do, they are sub-standard.
but i think the pre-workout supps are way way way overrated, not to mention the roi is simply not there when you look at the cost v. results.
not to mention all of the proprietary mixes. fuck, they skirt the rules bigtime and come up with the most unreadable labels on anything that is ingested.
here are a couple ( not saying this product is garbage, but even so, wtf is all this nonsens? lolz!
a piece of fruit or 2 and, if needed, a cup of coffee does the trick. healthier, cheaper, and better.
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Yup. Admittedly, I used to use them then I saw the light.
By the way, I just got back from the lifetime fitness in Vernon Hills and I was working out next to Gregg Olsen and Matt Forte, (Bears players). I keep getting cards in the mail so I decided to try the guess pass, it's an amazing gym but almost $100 a month. I can't justify paying that much.