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Old 07-28-2011, 04:25 PM  
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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command View Post
but with a Big Mac I actually receive a product .. with music I don't .. the same music I can listen to for free on the radio ? I know have to pay for ? why ?

back in the day everybody would just record their favorite songs from the radio and that way you could play them again when they wanted to ..

with buying music , you basically buy the right to listen to it when you want, you are not paying for the music itself but for the option to listen to it when it pleases you , ..
First off, with the radio, they almost never play the full album. They play a few singles and nothing more. Growing up I recorded my favorites songs off the radio too. And if I wanted the rest of the album I had to go buy it because they didn't play it on the radio. That has changed to a certain degree now with sites like grooveshark etc. You are correct, you don't own the music when you buy it, but you have the right to listen to it as much as you want for the rest of your life. When you listen to it, you consume it. With art you can consume it over and over again and again and it is still there for you to enjoy. With a big mac you can only consume it once.





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well, the question is , why should you ? as you pointed out yourself artists can make more then enough money from live concerst and merchandise ..

and I think it is better for them to just focus on that .. if you really like a certain artist and he is in town to give a concert you just might want to go and buy some tickets and go watch him live

if you did not get the oppurtunity to listen to his music in the first place you would not have gone .. concert revenue is at an all time high ?? why is that do you think ? maybe because more people listen to music now that it is free ?

free music is here now , and it is here to stay .. look at spotify , grooveshark ..
Are concert revenues at an all time high? I'm not so sure of that. I read every day about artists canceling shows. There was a story just the other day that Britney Spear's promotion team is selling tickets dirt cheap and giving them away so that she doesn't play to buildings that are only 75% full. Sure. there is a lot of money for good, popular bands to make money on the road. But why should they be forced to do that for the rest of their lives? That is not an easy existence. You are away from family and friends for extended periods of time and in a different city every day. It isn't nearly as glamorous as it seems.

You have the option not to buy the much. As you said with Spotify and Grooveshark you can listen for free. Nobody is forcing you to buy the download of the song or buy the CD. But if you do, I think the artist should get a cut of the profit. If the artist isn't worthy of a cut of the profit than who is?






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is this Chef making his food only once ? you contradict yourself .. you make the argument that a Big Mac can not be sold more than once because once somebody eats it is gone and you have to make a new one if you want to sell more

so how about this chef then ?

the rest of his customers will not be getting any food ? or what ? aslong as he is making NEW food he should get paid .. artists are not making anything new at all

some of them make one Big Mac and then expect to get paid forever ,
Here is what I meant, but failed to say correctly. The guy that created the big mac cashed checks for decades from big mac sales even though he personally was not making the big macs. The same with the chef. He created the recipes, the restaurant is using them and he is getting paid for it even though he personally isn't in the kitchen cooking.

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