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Originally Posted by PR_Glen
karate guys are trained for self defense, mostly against drunk guys in bars who's girls they have hit on and have to defend themselves. Soldiers are trained to kill and to survive under any extreme thrown at them. Comparing the two is idiocy.
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When did I mention karate at all? Please learn to read.
I was referring to martial arts in general. The one most applicable to this situation would have been wrestling or another form of clinch grappling, including Judo and Sumo. Greco Roman wrestling would have probably been the best. If the soldier was trained in Greco, he would have known to pummel for double underhooks or at least secure his whizzer properly.
My point was that most US marines are not competently trained in grappling or striking and will therefore get schooled by someone who is. They will, however, most likely kick the shit out of someone who is untrained (since they do have some training and are in better physical condition, generally.)
The reason I was comparing their training to someone who trains in martial arts is because it is relevant to the
video in the OP. You know, the one where the marine gets taken down twice and isn't well-trained enough to know not to post up on his arm when being taken down? (and hence breaking it.)
Also, what does karate have to do with fighting drunk dudes in bars? Karate's one of the worst bar fight martial arts out there since it generally requires you to keep and strike from a distance - a luxury usually not afforded in bars. Muay Thai is a much better bar fighting art, since it focuses heavily on striking from the clinch.
That said, American Karate is a joke. It's still pretty good in the East, but still inferior to other striking arts like boxing and MT.
You can see Shogun's arm break here from a similar thing:
He was a phenomenal fighter, but didn't grow up wrestling and wasn't properly trained in it so he didn't know to not post up on his arm during a fall. Then again, he really should have learned it in BJJ. How to fall is one of the first things you learn.