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Originally Posted by wehateporn
Rochard, I do like the way that you take the time to give an answer to each point, while others who are incapable of debating the points go straight for the throat of the messenger 
The other day I read your post about trusting the President. So let's say that the President was saying what MediaGuy has been saying, and MediaGuy was posting what we currently know as "The Official Story". If all the facts were the same as now, but the President said it was an inside job, would you change your stance? |
I'm fascinated by 9/11 and World War 2. I can debate both until I'm out of breath. I read a lot about both, mostly WW2. I just finished a book called Schindler's List; Seems there was a lot the movie failed to mention. I don't read about 9/11 as much, but I've read the 9/11 Commission Report, Debunking 9/11, and Debunking Dubunking 9/11. When this happened in 2001 I believe it at face value, and while I've read all about the 9/11 conspiracy theories, I have yet to find anything that changes my opinion of what happened that day. We can debate how the towers fell until we are blue in the face but the truth is we'll never know.
Before I answer your question.... I former US Military, and the military "serves at the pleasure of the President". We don't serve Bush or Obama, the Democratic or Republican parties, but we we answer to whomever is President at that moment.
If the President Obama (or Bush for that matter) came out in the morning and said that 9/11 was done by the US Military, CIA, or Israel.... I have no idea if I would believe them or not.
There are too many holes in the conspiracy theories. Why would they have used airplanes at all - why not bomb them? If the airplanes were remote controlled from the ground, what happened to flight 93 in Shanksville? What happened to all of those people who got on those airplanes?
I do believe our government lies to us. You know JFK wasn't shot by a magical fucking bullet, and you know that Israel knowingly attacked a US Navy ship during the Six Day War. But I don't think they could lie about this. But I think there is a huge difference between telling a lie after the fact and intentionally causing an incident. In other words, Oswald set out to kill JFK but it was the Secret Service who shot and killed him. (In short... The Secret Service was heavily armed with sub machine guns, Oswald takes a pot shot, everyone grabs their weapons, and opps JFK was shot from behind.) The Secret Service didn't plan on killing JFK - it was an accident - but they covered it up by altering a few facts. Here with 9/11 the conspiracy theories say that this was intentionally done by the US Government as a pretext to build a pipeline in Afghanistan that still hasn't been built. But there is way too many things they would have to cover up and hide to pull this off.