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Old 09-11-2011, 11:42 AM  
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MediaGuy and I have been chatting on ICQ and he tells me he's out of coffee and and misses the rush of our debate and begged me to respond.... So here goes.

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The only part of the plane that could have compromised the core was the engines. The engines only severed a few of the fifty or so columns in the core or the building. We saw fuel ignited outside the building which also suntracts from the idea that all that fuel caused internal damage since it burned outside the shell of the buildings.
While eating breakfast this morning I was watching CNN and they interviewed a guy who was above the impact zone. He said that at the moment of impact the floor dropped ten feet. I think a huge airplanes went through the towers, and totally violated the cores. Remember, the core of the towers weren't solid - that's where the elevators were located. One of the elevator shafts had a fireball send down it and that exploded in the lobby at the bottom level.

I think the plane sliced through the concrete and steel there.

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Regardless, the lower floor would not cave in less than a tenth of a second. The 100 stories fell in ten seconds,which mean about ten floors per second. Ten floors in one second! That's impossible.
I don't know where you get "a tenth of a second from". I posted a video earlier that showed it took at least 15 seconds, but that's debatable because we can't really see what inside before we saw visual proof of what was happening outside - meaning, the floors might have been falling already before we saw this on the outside.

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These pieces were hurled from the top, and weren't pushed by falling or tipping parts of the structure. If the collapse was genuinely gravity driven how could large portions be sent out so far?
I don't know where you getting "hurled" from. When the towers were done falling we had a huge debris field that was more than six hundred feet long. The building fell down, but as it hit the button it had no place to go but out.

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The 9/11 commission excluded or omitted two thirds of its collected data, from what we can see from witness reports, much of it because it simply didn't follow their theory - which is what it was, since even the FBI have admitted they don't have the proof to attribute 9/11 to Bin Laden.
The full commision report interviewed 1200 people in ten countries and reviewed nearly three million pages of documentation. Of course there are reports that information was omitted or even ignored - mostly because none of it can be verified. There's also the fact that the information related to 9/11 was staggering. Things got lost in the mix. This is to be expected when your talking about interviewing thousands of people and millions of documents.

They traced the terrorists right back to their homes and their connection to al qaeda.
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