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Originally Posted by martinsc
some names that pop into my head are Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Stalin and Caligula....
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We have a distorted view of their entire lives because the evils they have done overshadow any good they may have done in their lives--Rightly so of course.
You can throw in any serial killer into that argument as well, but every one of them had done plenty of good in their lives before they did any of the terrible things. The reason for that is debatable though, most seem to have had violence around them in their youth of some sort.
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Originally Posted by Barefootsies
So then, you are saying humans are corrupted by circumstance?
For example, there are women all of us know who if you asked them while the times were good to toss your salad, they would tell you to go fuck yourself. However, if the chips were down.... it is only a matter of dollars and the circumstances and many (not all) would do it?
Or another example from GFY experience would be, 4-5 years ago everyone on the forum was against the tube, theft, copyright, blah blah blah, as long as they were making money at the time (via standard methods) and life was good. Once conversions were in the shitter, and the industry changed, they then joined the tube dark side bandwagon to try and remain some sort of profitability.
While these are just random examples, there are plenty more.
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I would say exactly that, we are definitely corrupted from circumstances. None of us here are murderers, but if someone broke into your home and attacked you and your family and put you in a life/death situation would you not kill to protect them? (this example is rare obviously but i think it is relevant)
I think we can all agree that almost all violent criminals have had some sort of violence done to them while growing up.
People have been creating 'monsters' since the beginning of time. The devil is needed to justify why bad things happen in most religions. Basically it is too hard for people to accept that these 'evil doers' are human as the rest of us, they have just done and are capable of doing more evil acts than the rest of us.