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Originally Posted by 12clicks
Muslim scum don't dictate US policy. If they don't like our allies, too bad.
As has been shown a few times now, we'll simply bomb the savages back to the stone age.
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The fact of the matter is that muslim scum DO dictate U.S. policy. This is pretty evident in the fact that we have a Transportation Security Administration, a Department of Homeland Security, USA PATRIOT Act and countless other domestic policy measures put in place after the 9/11 attacks. The world is going their way. Our leaders have been clever in defining success as preventing a big terrorist attack on the United States, but we've lost some 5,000 soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. We've spent billions on those wars, and as in Vietnam the government has suffered a real hit on its credibility. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan has created huge divisiveness in our domestic politics, not to mention in our relationships with our European allies. At the same time, there are more people willing to take up arms against the United States, and we have less ability to win hearts and minds in the Arab world. If you're the leader of a terrorist network, all those things are part of the war and those things are going your way.
We need to acknowledge that we are at war, not because of who we are, but because of what we do. We are confronting a jihad that is inspired by the tangible and visible impact of our policies. People are willing to die for that, and we're not going to win by killing them off one by one. We have a dozen years of reliable polling in the Middle East, and it shows overwhelming hostility to our policies?and at the same time it shows majorities that admire the way we live, our ability to feed and clothe our children and find work. We need to tell the truth to set the stage for a discussion of our foreign policy.
Your antipathy towards the Islamic world is certainly understandable, even if it isn't very justifiable. I don't expect to sway your opinion on the issue so i'll just end it with a couple of quotes by one of our founding fathers that pertain to our relationship with Israel.
"Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence ? the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial, else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it."
"Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence of the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people to surrender their interests."
-George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796
http://www.utulsa.edu/law/classes/ri...ll_Address.htm