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Old 10-10-2011, 05:20 PM  
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When I first saw the thread title, I was coming here to actually talk football, since I was the one who posted the "Eagles will win the Superbowl" thread a few months back.

But since it's turned into a Vick hatefest based on the heinous actions he did commit, then served 21 months in prison for, I'll discuss the hypocrisy demonstrated by most football fans who's only response to the Eagles/Vick is the dogfighting issue.

First, let me say that I am a dog lover. We have several dogs of our own, and I consider them members of my family, not just pets. I find what Michael Vick did to be dispicable, deplorable and disgusting. That being said, Vick served 21 months in federal prison, followed by two months of home confinement for his involvement in dog-fighting and money laundering related to the operations of Bad Newz Kennelz. He was also suspended from the NFL from August 2007 until September 2009. I'm a firm believer in allowing those who serve their punishment to have a second chance at life. If he were to screw up again, let him rot. And for those who mentioned that he should have to work at an animal shelter, I do know that he does work with the humane society on a regular basis. Whether it's actually in a shelter or not, I do not know.

I don't want to make excuses for Vick's criminal acts, but in the context of this discussion, it should be noted that in many cultures, dog fighting is normal. It once was actually sanctioned and promoted in the U.S. as well. Regardless, it doesn't take away the fact that he did commit some atrocious crimes with those dogs.

Now, let's take a look at some other active players in the NFL, who never seem to get any grief from NFL fans.

Donte Stalworth:

A 30 day sentence for killing a HUMAN BEING while driving drunk, of which he only served 24 days.

Ray Lewis:


Obviously involved in the stabbing deaths of two people. Took a plea to avoid being charged with murder. Settled a civil suit with a victim's family, which essentially acknowledges that if gone to civil trial, there would be enough evidence to find him guilty of the wrongful death.

Paul Hubbard:
Bills receiver Paul Hubbard arrested for DWI after vehicle hits officer

Cedric Benson:
Bengals RB Cedric Benson is arrested for assault causing bodily injury to a family member.

Akeen Jordan:
Eagles LB Akeem Jordan is arrested for assault and battery.

Garret Wolfe:
Bears RB Garrett Wolfe is arrested on charges of retail theft, disorderly conduct, assault of a police officer, and resisting arrest with violence.

Aqib Talib:
Buccaneers CB Aqib Talib is arrested for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

Chris Cook:
Vikings CB Chris Cook busted for brandishing a handgun

Brandon Mariweather:
Patriots safety Brandon Meriweather allegedly fired a shot that hit two men.

Albert Haynesworth:
Redskins lineman Albert "Helmet Stomper" Haynesworth accused of punching motorist. Yes, this is the same guy that illegally used his brother's handicapped parking permit, paralyzed a Tennessee motorist while driving his Ferrari at speeds in excess of 100mph, stomped someone's helmet,

Everson Griffen:
Vikings DE Everson Griffen is arrested for felony battery.

Laurence Maroney:
Broncos running back Laurence Maroney has been arrested on weapons charges in St. Louis, according to KMOV-TV.

Perrish Cox:
Denver Broncos' rookie cornerback Perrish Cox on charges of sexual assault.

Will Smith:
New Orleans DE Will Smith Arrested, charged with domestic abuse battery after allegedly grabbing his wife by hair and pulling her down the street.


There's countless others who have been arrested for DUI (one on his 6th offense!), but I left them out. Although driving drunk is very dangerous and can be fatal, I left them off the list because someone will discredit the crime as not being as serious Vick's offenses. Something else to note, all of the players listed above have been implicated in crimes pertaining to HUMAN BEINGS, not animals.

The listings from Paul Hubbard on come from http://nflcrimes.blogspot.com/, where each listing has a news link to back up the statement. Additionally, they all are within the past year (the oldest listing is the Will Smith listing, which was posted November 27, 2010).

The Stalworth and Ray Lewis info was from Wikipedia.

My point here is that there are countless other players currently active in the NFL who have commited crimes just as severe (if not more) as what Vick did, yet none of those other players feel the wrath of hatred and negative talk as Vick does.

Can anyone who is hating on Vick explain to me why he gets your hatred, but yet none of these other players who have commited serious crimes against HUMAN BEINGS do not? I have my thoughts, but I'd really like to hear it from the haters.

I agree with you. I think Vick did too much time. I love my dogs more than most people, but at the end of the day it was a dog. But I think what got Vick in the most trouble was that he lied about it and there were federal issues involved with the betting. I don't remember the case exactly but I know it wasn't just "animal cruelty" there was a lot of other components.

Never the less, at the same time his shit hit the fan Donte Stalworth and Plaxico Burress were in the news. Stalworth was drunk and killed someone, and Burress shot himself in the leg. Vick fought dogs and killed them. Lets see who got what:

Vick: 2 years - Fighting dogs and killing them.
Burress: 2 years - Breaks strict NYC gun laws and shots self in leg.
Stalworth: house arrest - drives drunk, hits a man and kills him.

That's fucked up IMO. Stalworth should have done 5-10 easy. Burress, some where around there or less and Vick should have gotten less.
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