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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Been saying it for a while. Offline porn is a very very hard business these days, a few shop chains still make great money just look up Beate Uhse and Ann Summers for the sort of money in offline porn today. Imagine what it was before the Internet. Then multiply it by every shop in those countries, then carry those across to other major countries and you get an idea of what porn was worth. People looking at "Privates" DVD sales as a guide are idiots. It's like looking at Aden's turn over and saying this is the size of porn.
Online has been in decline for years, the number of shooters who were giving up shows that. Then sites closing, then problems getting paid, etc. You simply can't keep giving away free porn and leap frogging each other in the race to give away the most, without effecting over all sales.
In a famine, the strong can grab food from the weak, so the weak die first. If the famine continues, the strong eventually feed off each other. Then they die. The only thing that saves them is food and an end to the famine.
Aden that approach hasn't made money, except for those selling 1,000s of the CDs since 1999. Ask Z masters what they made from their discs. Ask me what I made from selling non exclusive, it will shock you. Your route leaves the shooter with nothing to live off, my route allows me to stop working and still take money over 3 years later.
However I totally agree with you about a more savvy customer requires better quality. This has been something I've said for years. Problem was getting sites to pay the price. There were porn markets who out paid online by a factor of 10 times.
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Paul you are right and they are right.
Here's how.
You are right. Tubes and giving away content leveraged traffic and pretty much threw every small mom and popper out with their 500 hits/day unless they could work/learn/buy time. They (and forums maybe more) DID hurt ratios no doubt and many had to leave.
Part of the blame is on the paysite too if not more. They sold the same junk for a long time.
I joined a fetish paysite promoted on this board onetime. It had 100 to 150 vids AND it was a recurring prog I belonged to. And yes *I* did not recur.
They are right. Cause they either own tubes
and/or are smart enuf to have consolidated down to progs that are still successful and/or build sites successfully (this is still where the money is) and/or buy traffic and have somehow managed to take the higher ratios and make them still work profitably.
So you are both essentially right. But I admire you more Paul being one of my few elders around here who posts more than one line.
Yeah triple.
good song that somehow fits..