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Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster View Post
Whoa, let's be perfectly 100% crystal clear here Harvey, I have NEVER EVER contacted you to do any job, let alone something you claim to be "extremely fishy".

If you contacted me first to offer me something, I may have replied out of courtesy as I get "programmers" trying to offer me their services but I will state again I HAVE NEVER EVER CONTACTED YOU on my own to do any job or a "extremely fishy" job. WTF??!!

But again, I take great offense that you said I asked you to do something "extremely fishy". Since you dare accuse me of asking you to do something "extrememly fishy", POST EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED YOU TO DO that was "extremely fishy". GO AHEAD, POST IT. Heck post the email conversation so everyone here can see exactly what is so "extremely fishy".

It's one thing to be upset with me because you quoted me an outrageous price and I went with another programmer with a specific project, but it's a whole different story when you try to slander me and say I am trying to get you to do something "extremely fishy".

What's wrong with people these days, just because they get butt hurt you don't hire them for a job, they turn around and slander people saying things like "extremely fishy". Sheesh
you're RIGHT (capitals are on purpose since I'll prove this is the only time you said something true in this post): you didn't contact me, you contacted my associate Ed. When he shown me the work you wanted to be done, I simply tell him to forget it and ignore you.

So I asked Ed to send me the original mail with headers since you ask for it:

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From - Tue Aug 16 03:27:51 2011
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Subject: Re: your GFY post
From: Elite Webmaster <[email protected]>
To: Mozlo Sales <[email protected]>
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Hi Ed,

Thanks for your message. I have included the first toon in the attachment. I
have about 20 more to be done after this one.

We need the watermark removed and the image needs to be retouched so it
shows no signs that a watermark was on top of it.

Let me know. Thanks

EliteWebmaster

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Mozlo Sales <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, we can do what you need for $3 per corrected image and have it done
> within 24 hours, please let me know if interested
>
> Regards
>
> Ed
> --
> *-----------------------------------*
> *
>
> Edgar Devine - Marketing Manager
>
> ICQ 599538071
> FDSign.com <http://www.fdsign.com>
> Mozlo Marketing <http://www.mozlo.com> (coming soon!)*
>



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Hi Ed,<br><br>Thanks for your message. I have included the first toon in th=
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t 2:08 PM, Mozlo Sales <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sales-edited-@mozlo.=
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Hi, we can do what you need for $3 per corrected image and have it
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<p>Edgar Devine - Marketing Manager </p>
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<a href=3D"http://www.fdsign.com" target=3D"_blank">FDSign.com</a=
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the "-edited-" part is to prevent spam for you and Ed

now, let's take a look at the image you wanted us to correct:



this, added to this thread made all our alarm bells ring

There's 1 chance in 1000 there's nothing wrong here and this is legit, hence why I said "fishy" and nothing more direct, but I really fail to see any scenario where you want a colleague's content and then the watermarks stripped from their work if you're related to them. Again, maybe a mysterious concatenation of events could happen and something that looks like plain theft is just a mistake, hence why I kept it at "fishy" and nothing else. If there's a LEGIT reason why you did this, then my most sincere apologies. And I'm very curious to hear those reasons.

btw, you said you never contacted me then you say I gave you an outrageous price for some programming work. Make up your mind, kid. For the record, I have no recollection you had contacted me at all EVER, nor did I contact you. At least with your available info. I made a search and nothing came up, we keep logs and backups of EVERYTHING as you can see. That's only one of the reasons our clients like us: they know we always strive to the maximum professionalism and they can get to us years after we worked for them and we'll have backups for everything and get back to past communications very easily.

The part of "outrageous price", while being a lie as proven since you admitted at first we never contacted each other, is nothing that worries me. As we can see in this same thread, or by doing a search in this board, you were looking for this for at least 1 year. And obviously can't get it done, because... who will take you seriously if you try to pay 1/20 of the price? So "outrageous price" for you might be anything higher than 20 bucks.

Finally, we aren't hired for jobs every day. Yet I don't think you'll ever find someone saying we slandered someone because of this (or anything else, as we're at it). It goes against our personal and business code of conduct, against any sense of professionalism and against any logic: a client lost today could mean a client earned tomorrow. Won't try to explain you something as basic as that, so do your best effort to understand.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed what you asked for, are you happy now?
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