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vdbucks · 04-11-2012, 10:20 AM

It's funny and yet quite sad to see so many people who are so adamantly against guns...

I grew up as a white kid in the darkest parts of Baltimore City which was, during that time, the murder capital of the US. I've never once been shot, or shot at. I have had guns drawn on me, but every time was by a criminal.

I've been hit by a drunk driver once; a moron speeding through a school crossing once; an idiot who swerved up on to the sidewalk once; I had my first car totaled because some moron panicked and slammed on their brakes in ice; I have been rear ended by jack asses talking on their cellphones while stopped at traffic lights; my grandmother had her car t-boned while pulling out of her driveway by some retard ho was driving the wrong way down a one way street; I've seen too many pile ups to count which are usually caused by some asshat who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car... I could go on all day if the point still eludes you.

Now, let's look at people with a legal right to carry a weapon (concealed or otherwise). how many of those people commit crimes? If I were a gambling man, I'd bet that the vast majority of crimes committed by persons permitted to carry weapons are committed by the police. And as has been stated before, more crimes are averted by people who are carrying legally than crimes committed.

Let's look at some statistics shall we:

Automobile related deaths: http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx
There were a total of 33,808 in 2009

Cigarette smoking related deaths: http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...ted_mortality/
An estimated 443,000 deaths annually (including deaths from secondhand smoke)

Homicide and legal intervention deaths by firearm (2009): 11,826
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html
Select "Homicide and Legal intervention" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2.

Legal Intervention related deaths (2009): 333
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html
Select "Legal intervention" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2.

Firearm related suicides (2009): 18,735
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html
Select "Suicide" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2.

Unintentional (accidental) firearm related deaths (2009): 554
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html
Select "Unintentional" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2.

So the facts are there for everyone to see... and the facts are, criminals and people who have given up on life are the leading cause of firearm related deaths in the US (2009). So while I can understand being against firearms, chastising and ridiculing legal gun owners is pretty ridiculous.

At the end of the day, you have a 98% higher chance of being killed by a car than you do of being killed by someone who is legally carrying a firearm.

04-11-2012, 10:20 AM
vdbucks Monger Cash Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,773	It's funny and yet quite sad to see so many people who are so adamantly against guns... I grew up as a white kid in the darkest parts of Baltimore City which was, during that time, the murder capital of the US. I've never once been shot, or shot at. I have had guns drawn on me, but every time was by a criminal. I've been hit by a drunk driver once; a moron speeding through a school crossing once; an idiot who swerved up on to the sidewalk once; I had my first car totaled because some moron panicked and slammed on their brakes in ice; I have been rear ended by jack asses talking on their cellphones while stopped at traffic lights; my grandmother had her car t-boned while pulling out of her driveway by some retard ho was driving the wrong way down a one way street; I've seen too many pile ups to count which are usually caused by some asshat who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car... I could go on all day if the point still eludes you. Now, let's look at people with a legal right to carry a weapon (concealed or otherwise). how many of those people commit crimes? If I were a gambling man, I'd bet that the vast majority of crimes committed by persons permitted to carry weapons are committed by the police. And as has been stated before, more crimes are averted by people who are carrying legally than crimes committed. Let's look at some statistics shall we: Automobile related deaths: http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx There were a total of 33,808 in 2009 Cigarette smoking related deaths: http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...ted_mortality/ An estimated 443,000 deaths annually (including deaths from secondhand smoke) Homicide and legal intervention deaths by firearm (2009): 11,826 http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html Select "Homicide and Legal intervention" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2. Legal Intervention related deaths (2009): 333 http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html Select "Legal intervention" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2. Firearm related suicides (2009): 18,735 http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html Select "Suicide" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2. Unintentional (accidental) firearm related deaths (2009): 554 http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html Select "Unintentional" from section 1 and "Firearm" from section 2. So the facts are there for everyone to see... and the facts are, criminals and people who have given up on life are the leading cause of firearm related deaths in the US (2009). So while I can understand being against firearms, chastising and ridiculing legal gun owners is pretty ridiculous. At the end of the day, you have a 98% higher chance of being killed by a car than you do of being killed by someone who is legally carrying a firearm. Last edited by vdbucks; 04-11-2012 at 10:26 AM..