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Old 07-06-2012, 05:21 PM  
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Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
Hey everyone, I just read through everything.

For the Aussie that's turned up, these blokes haven't been properly rogered by me yet, wait til I get really pissed off then i'll go as feral as Mark Latham in a taxi! Cheers mate, it is hard work but it's worthwhile.

To the AVN criticisms, to be fair AVN contacted me overnight and we're speaking on Monday.

To the ideas Mr Peabody has about methods, let's talk about those later

To the absolute dirt bags hopping on ICQ with veiled threats and who keep sending me hate emails, don't you realize that pissed off Aussies don't back down ? If you were a bit nicer and cut with the threats then I might try and reason with you.

Two thing file lockers need to realize.

1. Clean up your act and I'll work with you. I'm reasonable, the industry is reasonable but you have to take efforts to clean up your business. If you are honest about doing so then you have nothing to fear about us. We will even help you do it!

2. Keep pissing me off and I will find all the real evidence there is and report to authorities, post to public for all to see and ensure you never run a file locker again (I don't care how big your fucking company is). Got that ?

Gozarian summed it up nicely, us Aussies are thick skinned bastards who when go on a mission, will complete it to the very end. It's part of our spirit. The Eureka Stockade, Gallipoli, The Kokoda trail, the list goes on. We're fighters and I've woken up really pissed off this morning, so file lockers, do the right thing or watch out.

Also a little note, you might get me but you can't get all the people helping me, the volunteers, the staff, the contributors, the methods, the reports, the credit card processors action, the work of Paypal, the list goes on and on. So just fucking back off or i'll go from nuclear to thermonuclear.

right. Good Morning chaps. I feel much better now, who's up for a morning cuppa! ?
Morning, sunshine.



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Originally Posted by JimmyStephans View Post
I am guessing that some of you guys have never been in a case where they negotiate back and forth like this. Offer one thing, withdraw it, offer another, and back and forth.

Few main things to keep in mind.

1 is that the offer was withdrawn in 1-2 days, and if you look at the dates you see the Randazza guy was hard as heck on Oron after those offers in court.

2 is that Randazza is paid by Liberty. While he would love to do this for all website owners his first obligation is to Liberty and to maximize the settlement in favor of the client that is paying him (even if not perfect for ALL webmasters).

3 We all could have hired him BEFORE Liberty did and we ALL could have gone after Oron before Liberty did. We didn't - and for those of you that visit the XBiz forum you might remember that back in April there was a topic going about many people putting in money for a suit like this and only ONE person ever sent a dime. Just one person... seems hundreds of webmasters had the chance to get involved and didn't.

4 Strategically, Liberty / Randazza might be pulling the smartest move available. $400,000 settlement is one thing. A $250,000 with Oron that includes all user data might very well be better... because that user data would do two things... bring future settlements with direct uploaders and take those direct uploaders out of actions forever!

He might be the smartest damn lawyer in the business - but he is acting in the best interests of his client as he is obligated to do - and that might not seem great to you and me, but damn he sure is taking care of the guys PAYING HIM.
I get all of that, but you are missing the point. Why on earth would Fisher offer to lie for Oron, who is a huge pirate who often ignores DMCA and hosts child porn?

That is about as low as it gets. None of the other stuff matters. Offering to lie to the entire industry about Oron of all sites, is a straight up douche bag move.

Would you cover for someone who hosts child porn? I wouldn't think anyone of sound mind would.
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