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Originally Posted by notjoe
Once again, Then why are you bothering with link shortening services? They are not a file locker are they?
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To be honest we haven't specifically gone after any link shortening service, however when certain relationships have been identified which contribute to the file locker eco system then the appropriate action has been taken by Paypal.
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I have no doubt that the project costs a heap of money. So, let me ask you this. Since you don't the resources to go after ALL piracy related sites what made you go after the file lockers first? Do you believe they've had the biggest impact on the the market which you operate in, namely adult?
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From the point of view of Stop File Lockers it seemed like a good place to start at the time, considering the fact that CCBill were encouraged, by popular opinion, to drop processing for all file lockers. It became clear that file lockers , dependent on a supply of funds, could fail if deprived of funds.
From the point of view of Copy Control, which was formed to take over the project, the idea is that file lockers is a good starting point. It is likely , should support exist, that Copy Control could move on to other forms of piracy. However as things stand now we only have the resources to tackle file lockers. Nobody is being paid to do this, nobody has received one cent to do the hard yards on this project.
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Make up your fucking mind already. Stop imposing double standards and stop being a hypocrite. Either ALL businesses who profit off traffic generated by piracy are illegitimate or not they're not. I guess I am the only one who sees an issue with your double standards and free pass for adult affiliate programs who make money off traffic generated by piracy vs non-adult sites who make money off the traffic generated from piracy.
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You don't understand the difference between primary purpose and side effect.
If a sites primary purpose is to profit from stolen content, then it's obviously illegitimate. A warez forum has the intent and purpose to trade warez or make them available, therefore we see it as illegitimate. However if that warez forum ran ads and one of those ads was for Hyundai cars then you wouldn't say Hyundai cars should be gone after because the side effect of their advertising was that an ad appeared on a warez site.
Most adult pay sites are there to sign up subscribers, their primary purpose is not usually piracy.
We don't say every file locker is bad, in fact we'll happily work with any file locker who wishes to be a legitimate legal business. However if you run a file locker and encourage the trading of stolen content or even run your own piracy sites as some file lockers do, or even make deals with forums to be the only file locker linked to, then you're not legitimate and we will work with payment processors to curb piracy.
We're not giving anyone a free pass, but you're asking us to go after sites involved with illegal tubes and we just don't have the resources. We're only able to deal with the immediate file locker Eco system.
Notjoe, if you have no dog in this fight, why do you worry what we do ?