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Old 08-21-2012, 01:18 AM  
notjoe
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Let me ask you this. It's a simple question. Does a file locker with terabytes of illegal pornography (e.g.: CP), Hollywood Movies, Video Games, Commercial Pornography and Pirate Software have the right to exist ?
Short answer is no. If they follow the rules of the game, terminate uploaders, seize their funds, remove all files uploaded, then their within the law and I don't believe there is an issue. If they're taking measures to stop the abuse of their system it shows their making the effort and a lot more legitimate than you make them out to be. As someone else pointed out...you will only see the illegal files as the legitimate ones will rarely be made public.


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Let me ask you this. Does a link shortening site, which is linked to a file locker, derives most of it's traffic from piracy and warez forums and blogs, allows links to illegal content (e.g.: CP) and, refuses to act on reports of such content, have the right to exist ?
If they're not removing the links to the content that resides on file lockers then I would have to agree with you on that. However, You never said that. All you said was that they were a link shortening service being used by file lockers to generate additional content. You never said notices were sent to the link shortening website to have links pulled. Do you even have the legal authority to request that links such programs as windows or photoshop be removed? If not then how could you say that they didn't remove the links?



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Originally Posted by AdultKing View Post
Visa and Mastercard both ban certain words from use on Adult websites. If you think they're going to keep processing for sites which have files like "XXX.Dog.Cum.I.zoo.VCD.animal_zoofilia.woman._.dog higt_quality_by_TheWolf_o__zoofilia.mpg" then you're on drugs.
I never said they would nor that they had to. Again, file lockers can make the effort to prevent such content although they cannot stop it all. It is easy enough to scan the file name for questionable words.


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The difference between the large card brands and Paypal is that the card companies have many different layers of bureaucracy between the merchant and the card company whereas Paypal have control of their whole system.
I believe the point I have been trying to make has gone way over your head. I am not for nor against file lockers. I truthfully couldn't care. What I AM against is this:

1) Double standard - If a link shortening website is bad because they accept traffic from sites which promote piracy then any affiliate program which accepts traffic from any site that promotes piracy is also bad. You cannot rationalize it. It's the same.

2) The take down of a website which does its part to remove content and prevent it from coming back up. Any website with user submitted content is definitely open to be abused. That being said, if they are taking legitimate measures to fight piracy by employing some of the things I've mentioned earlier then they're doing their part.

3) I do believe that the one truly good thing that has come out of what it is your doing is the removal of child pornography. In that respect I would love to help you. I don't know if you have a way of alerting the local police and other agencies for child exploitation based on the location of the file host but that is a cause I would love to be involved in.

4) You come off as an adult business superhero. Well, maybe that is what people are labeling you as. The reality is that I honestly don't believe anything you've done has had an impact on our business at all. If you're out to help multi billion dollar companies earn more revenue then great. I doubt they've noticed an increase in sales since you've been doing this.

5) I would suggest you start targeting news group services. They're loaded with all kinds of porn, software, hollywood movies, tv shows, etc. they're cheaper than file lockers. $10/mo gets you unlimited downloads.

That is my

Last edited by notjoe; 08-21-2012 at 01:21 AM..
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