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Originally Posted by notjoe
Short answer is no. If they follow the rules of the game, terminate uploaders, seize their funds, remove all files uploaded, then their within the law and I don't believe there is an issue. If they're taking measures to stop the abuse of their system it shows their making the effort and a lot more legitimate than you make them out to be. As someone else pointed out...you will only see the illegal files as the legitimate ones will rarely be made public.
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Our contention is that a file locker that has terabytes of illegal and pirated material freely available is illegitimate. These are the sites we have been targeting. If you believe we have targeted a file locker that is legitimate then please let us know.
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If they're not removing the links to the content that resides on file lockers then I would have to agree with you on that. However, You never said that. All you said was that they were a link shortening service being used by file lockers to generate additional content. You never said notices were sent to the link shortening website to have links pulled. Do you even have the legal authority to request that links such programs as windows or photoshop be removed? If not then how could you say that they didn't remove the links?
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We have only reported link shortening sites that we have come across directly related to file locker activities as a result of our investigations of file lockers, the same goes to image hosts. If you have any examples of legitimate link shortening sites or image hosts that have been targeted then please let us know.
As for who we are authorised to act for and in what capacity we make reports, this is an operational matter and we do not discuss operational matters in public.
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I never said they would nor that they had to. Again, file lockers can make the effort to prevent such content although they cannot stop it all. It is easy enough to scan the file name for questionable words.
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If a site has thousands of files, amounting to terabytes of content which is pirated or otherwise illegal then the site is not legitimate.
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I believe the point I have been trying to make has gone way over your head. I am not for nor against file lockers. I truthfully couldn't care. What I AM against is this:
1) Double standard - If a link shortening website is bad because they accept traffic from sites which promote piracy then any affiliate program which accepts traffic from any site that promotes piracy is also bad. You cannot rationalize it. It's the same.
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It may be the same, but we don't have the resources to deal with anything other than file lockers. The project is STOP FILE LOCKERS. As such we are not actively chasing other forms of piracy.
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2) The take down of a website which does its part to remove content and prevent it from coming back up. Any website with user submitted content is definitely open to be abused. That being said, if they are taking legitimate measures to fight piracy by employing some of the things I've mentioned earlier then they're doing their part.
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Name one legitimate site we have targeted.
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3) I do believe that the one truly good thing that has come out of what it is your doing is the removal of child pornography. In that respect I would love to help you. I don't know if you have a way of alerting the local police and other agencies for child exploitation based on the location of the file host but that is a cause I would love to be involved in.
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I cannot comment as this is an operational matter and we do not discuss operational matters in public.
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4) You come off as an adult business superhero. Well, maybe that is what people are labeling you as. The reality is that I honestly don't believe anything you've done has had an impact on our business at all. If you're out to help multi billion dollar companies earn more revenue then great. I doubt they've noticed an increase in sales since you've been doing this.
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I've actually not said much other than to outline the project and report takedowns. If others want to make judgements about that then that's up to them.
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5) I would suggest you start targeting news group services. They're loaded with all kinds of porn, software, hollywood movies, tv shows, etc. they're cheaper than file lockers. $10/mo gets you unlimited downloads.
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As I have stated many many times now, the project is STOP FILE LOCKERS, as such we're working on file lockers not news servers.