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Originally Posted by Nautilus
Don't fall for that crap that pirates are trying to feed you. Offering some content removal system is nowhere near a start, for reasons see AK's post above. The real start will be when they stop violating the law and start looking for ways to create legitimate services where the overwhelming majority of users are either legit copyright holders or fair use.
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Technically, according to the DMCA and Safe Harbor, they are within the law. Of course this varies country to country. American Law != World law.
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Originally Posted by Nautilus
What this guy is trying to do is to simply redress the traditional file lockers model to claim "we're not one of them", but no matter how you put it it is still an incentivized piracy where uploaders get their cut while not having to provide any proof whatsoever they own copyrights to the materials they upload.
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Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Nautilus
He wants copyright holders to police his site because he can claim "we're cooperating, we're legit, we're providing take down accounts" while keeping to recruit new uploaders at WJ knowing full well what they're going to upload, while turning a blind eye to sources of where his traffic is coming from, while not investigating on DMCAs and not taking action to cut sources of infringement, while not removing the master file and only deleting a generated link to it (which will be replaced tomorrow), while paying piracy sites to promote him, while probably owning piracy sites directly too.
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That is a lot of assumptions you've made. Why don't you stick to the facts.
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Originally Posted by Nautilus
And of course he knows full well that even by providing take down accounts he's not going to hurt his library of copyrighted works uploaded illegaly which is the main source of his income - he just thinks that he'll silence some copyright holders who're the most proactive about piracy while keeping to profit from stealing from other copyright holders (actually, even those copyright holders who do have take down accounts will still be unable to stop infringements completely so he'll profit from them too, just a bit less).
That is his plan. It's no different from what the rest of the bunch is up to. Takedown accounts or not, it is impossible to stop piracy when a service is knowngly engaged in it and provide "roof and shelter" for their illegal uploaders. You can talk about take down accounts only with a service that is actually legitimate, really has a market outside of piracy, has the overwhelming majority of legitimate users and really serious about stopping infringement. If you settle for merely a take down account with the likes of fileshoppe, you're just giving up to your future role as a "delete monkey", but there's still no hope - upload monkeys will outpace you and you'll not be able to stop illegal distribution of your content. Only maybe to slow it down a bit.
For the likes of fileshoppe we as a community should only have two options - either go legal or go fuck yourself.
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I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of your post. I just don't care enough and am a little hungover ;)