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Originally Posted by DTK
Ed, I don't know if anyone has put it this way, but...
Let's say the number for each person is $5000. That means someone earning $20k/year would be paying 25% of their income in taxes, leaving them $15k to survive on. Someone earning $500k/year would be paying 1% of their income, leaving them $495k to 'survive' on.
In what universe is that in any way fair or equal?
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DTK... How do you think it works now? You are just reversing how things work and then assuming it's fair because it "seems" balanced.
25% from the poor but 1% from the wealthy seems unfair; yet 1% from the lesser and 25% from the greater does seem fair? How so? Explain to me how a dollar to one person is different than a dollar to another person. If the argument begins that "they can afford to pay more", just rephrase and say "they can afford to be taken from more". It's legalized theft is all it is.
Take everything out of it and just suppose for a moment that we all are really equal at birth and then move forward. Assume that we are all responsible for our own lives and we truly shouldn't be required to support our neighbor (not asked to voluntarily do so, but required to). At what point does that change? At what point do we determine a man's value requires that he then must (not voluntarily, but require do) do more than others must?
If you want to say that a percentage of every dollar is equal in taxation, I'm fine with that. Everyone would be equalized; but why should a dollar further down the road (in April? in July? in September/October/November/December) be taxed differently than the dollar in January just because person B is receiving more than person A?
Take away ridiculous and unchecked government spending and you get the answer that it's all unbalanced. Person B is being asked to give more solely because he has more with no consideration other than "he can afford to give more". What if all the givers, en masse, decided to tell this great nation to go fuck itself and walked out. What then?
You have a gigantic class of people that are taking, but are not contributing (or are contributing so minimally that it's laughable in comparison to the percentage contributed by the class that just walked out).
Balance shit out and stop the spending. Require that people balance things out. Stop handing out voting as a privilege when contribution is minimal. It's a political shell game and nothing more.