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Old 11-20-2012, 01:41 PM  
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Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Hey freakfiles...why don't YOU do something to stop piracy? Let me know how it goes! We're all waiting for you and notjoe to get to work.
I'll bet you $1000 neither of them will do anything other than keep posting in this thread. But with a name like "FreakFiles" I'll also bet you that he has something to do with piracy.

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Originally Posted by Dirty F View Post
Yeah, that's exactly why i don't like this guy. His fucked up attitude. Every person who is not 100% agreeing with him will be called a pirate and a thief. Very annoying behaviour. And his buttbudies will do the same. Just like they will be all over me because of this post. It's quite a sad group of people.
Here is the problem Franck, why whould anyone care if it is not affecting their business?

Really think about that for a moment before you answer. This isn't like cross sales where it could have an impact on your business, and you had/have every right to flip out about those, as it affected YOU and other honest people in the business. But piracy... why do you or anyone else care what rights holders are doing and the attitude and tactics they have to use to get the job done IF it is not affecting you? Why do you care what methods are used, who supports it, and how it has to be done if you're not involved?

I'm not trying to jump all over, I'm just trying to logically explain why it doesn't make sense for ANYONE to worry about what AK is doing unless they are directly affected. That means either you are trolling, hating, or supporting piracy. Otherwise you wouldn't care enough to keep coming into this thread and posting negative comments or questing the motives of someone who does not affect you in any way, shape or form. So which is it? I don't believe you support piracy, so are you just hating or trolling?

So you don't like his attitude, that's great, why do you care if his attitude does not affect your business? Would you prefer a push-over bro who can be bought to look over certain sites and make back room deals? Because that is what you would get. AK needs to be firm and just, and if that means he comes off as having a bad attitude towards those of you who are not even involved with what he is doing, then again, WHY DO YOU CARE?

Trolling, hating, or supporting piracy. It comes down to one of those three for each and every one of you who are busting his balls. At least with you and that ass hat with the feeds in his sig, people know who you are. Everyone else can kick rocks.


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Originally Posted by Dirty F View Post
Any sane person can see how just one big tube has more impact than all the filelockers combined. Any sane person but Adultking for some reason. And i still wonder why.
On the surface this may appear to be true but if you really knew a lot about piracy and what is going on, you wouldn't make that comment, because it is not accurate.

1) Tubes are VERY manageable.

2) Tubes quickly reply to DMCA notices. Many of them now give producers take down access so no DMCA has to be sent. Instant removals.

3) Most smaller tubes scrape the larger tubes so as you remove the video from the large tube it kills the video across countless smaller ones.

4) Most of the larger tube sites are licensing content and have 10s of 1000s of legal scenes already, not to mention legal scenes uploaded by the content owners.

5) There are already multiple companies who are sending DMCAs to tube sites on behalf of content owners.

YES more eyes are on tubes, but many of them are moving quickly to be more legit as they see the writing on the wall.

If you want to argue about which is worse for FREE PORN, tubes or lockers, tubes would win that argument hands down. But that is not the debate. The debate is about PIRACY, and currently file lockers DWARF tubes for piracy (illegal content) and it is a hell of a lot more difficult to deal with permanent content removal on a locker.

Last, you are free, just like everyone else is, to start your own movement or company to go after whoever you see fit, by whatever rules you want to play by. No one is stopping you.

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Originally Posted by Dirty F View Post
We will find out about his real motives sooner or later.
And then what? Are you going to make a bunch of internet threads about it? That will show him!

AK now has support from a lot of large companies, I don't think anyone is worried about what you are the other naysayers in this thread have to say, especially since you're not even involved.

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Originally Posted by vollenweider View Post
To make the long story short, what AK is doing doesn't affect piracy, nothing has changed since June, i know you are going to say you have terminated xxxx of file lockers blah blah but the pirate is still able to download and distribute our stuff on torrents for free!!
That is complete bullshit and if you had skin in the game you would know it. Most pirates who were pirating my content, dick heads who I could never stop before, are now almost all out of business and their sites are offline, thanks to AK. Sales have not been this good for us in four years and I give a lot of that thanks to anti-piracy efforts.

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Originally Posted by vollenweider View Post
Last month you said you guyz made some progress to fight against torrents, but nothing yet. Oh one more thing, Where are the domain seizings ? didn't you said its not that difficult for you and i shouldn't bet on this?
Stop your feet harder, maybe that will speed things along. Or, you can do something yourself instead of crying about it.

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Originally Posted by vollenweider View Post
I started to believe that you don't give a fuck about piracy in gerneral. Don't say that what can i do!! since you are accepting "donations" from manwin you should fight against all kind of piracy UNLESS you contract for accepting donations from manwin was signed otherwise hehe
It's called having a well thought out plan, dumb ass. I understand most of you who want a scatter shot approach probably live a life that is the same, one cluster fuck after another, unable to focus on anything, but those who are successful plan their work and work their plan. You want no plan, which would cause failure. Maybe that is how you live your life, but that is not what is happening here. And if you had any sense whatsoever, you would see the larger picture and perhaps be privy to the long term goals.

Personally, I don't care even if Manwin paid him to kill all of their competition. Like I said before, I'd rather deal with one Manwin than one thousand of you idiots who try to skirt the law every chance you get and hide behind offshore hosting accounts who ignore DMCA requests.

It boggles my mind how shallow and short minded some of you are. It is no wonder most people are failing at online businesses and at life in general. If you had something proud to represent and were successful, you wouldn't have to hide behind a fake nick all the time or you would at least let people know who you are. It may just have a little more impact than posting like a scared bitch.
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