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Old 05-08-2013, 03:09 AM  
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Originally Posted by DamianJ View Post
Everyone gets usenet for free with their internet connection. Sure, not the 1500 day + retentions, but certainly enough to use it. So the uploaders don't get paid, the downloaders don't have to pay. There is no money changing hands. (Yes, sure, there are some premium account sellers, but it is possible to download all you want for nothing with access that comes with your ISP account). 10TB a day is being uploaded at the last count.
14 Usenet providers have lost Paypal and can expect to lose credit card processing soon if they continue to carry certain newsgroups.

Don't for a moment thing Usenet is immune to what we are doing.

However as for figures, some file lockers we monitor for DMCA's have uploads equivalent to or exceeding of the total volume Usenet in one day.

Oron was a monster, sites like Uploaded, Netload, Rapidgator and Letitbit are huge in comparison to the content added to Usenet each day.

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz View Post
who's the biller which processes cc's for filelockers now?

since that czech billing is gone

what's current status of your campaign? are things still going? what are your current targets. how's financing doing?
We're doing ok, however always welcome contributions via either Paypal or Paxum at [email protected]

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Originally Posted by SplatterMaster View Post
Usenet is not really free anymore. Most ISP?s cut out their free Usenet accounts and no longer provide access. At least here in the states anyways.

Usenet is pretty much dead anyways. There are a couple of groups that offer the mega site stuff, but the independent site stuff is gone and moved to file lockers.
One of the common complaints by people building NZB's is completion, DMCA's and other strategies actually mean that a whole lot of content has missing parts which make completion impossible.

We're going to crush Usenet providers who continue to distribute harmful and infringing content.

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions View Post
Damian, love, file lockers get 100's of TB everyday collectively, and considering some of what has been going on behind the scenes with copyright infringement and going after rogue merchants, it's probably not much of a step to bridge that over to usenet.
It's clear throughout this thread that Damian has no understanding of the scale of the file locker problem.

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Originally Posted by DamianJ View Post
I'd not seen any figures for filelocker uploads, honey. Can you quote your source?

I mean, you wouldn't be talking out of your arse, would you?

Merchants, yes, but usenet is free. How do you think that can be stopped, been going since before the WWW, many have tried, none have succeeded.
Usenet isn't free - it may be provided for free by your ISP but that isn't the same thing.

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The thing you (collectively) don;t seem to understand is that large scale piracy existed way way waaay before upload monkeys were monetised. It's a red herring to go after them. Sure, AK has closed a few. But more have sprung up and the industry clearly thinks he is wasting his time or would support him with more than a couple of $50 donations.

I say it again, this is a waste of time. Piracy has always existed, will always exist and you should concentrate efforts on making a better lander, email, tour, payment page, prepament page and site rather than piss away time and money trying to win a fight that cannot ever be won.
Some of the largest copyright holders disagree with you, our methods have been very effective and we're already developing new capabilities which will help us further mitigate the problem (partly why I have been so quiet lately as we build new alliances and technology).

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii View Post
The Crushing the AD networks who lick the pirate's balls will be such a pleasure to see.
This is coming, watch this space.
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