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The IRS admitted to targeting conservative groups!
During talks all over this, it has been said that the orders came from Washington DC, he knew about it. Or maybe you have a better idea why the head of the IRS took the fifth?
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No, I've never read that any orders came from DC. In fact, just the opposite. I read that the orders came from a local office, and that DC had no clue any of it was going on.
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Fuck Richard, can you read? I don't give a fuck who started it, it's there and it's WRONG!
Obama said he was doing away with the patriot act, it's still there!
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But you blame Obama, and not Bush... You need to blame Bush about this, not Obama.
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Fact is, under Obama is when the food stamp usage grew, if he was doing anything, they would be going down right?
Please show me what lies you are talking about? I have just put out facts, not opinions
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No, you don't put out facts. You cherry pick stats to get your point across.
Again, back to your comments about gas and how cheap it was under Bush - when the truth is gas was at it's highest point during the Bush administration!
You also ranted about the murder rate in Chicago, saying that gun laws don't work - when the truth is the murder continues to drop in Chicago.
Yes, food stamps usage is at a all time high. Take a look at what just happened to the economy. If it wasn't at an all time high it would be rather strange. But did Obama cause that? I'm guessing not being as this happened BEFORE Obama took office.
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Yeah, if you were watching MsNbc like I do in the morning, you would have read it's Bush's fault, sounds like a whinny little kid that blames everything on someone else, Barry needs to man up and take responsibility.
I personally don't giver a rats ass about who started it, it does very little for the country to place blame, but when the guy in charge after 5 years still can't take credit for what's going on, well that's a piss poor leader
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I don't watch MsNBC. Ever. I don't even know what their slant is.
It is about placing blame. This is was all caused before Obama took office. This is not a four year or a eight year problem. It's a ten to twenty year problem. I don't believe Obama is our savior; I honestly believe my pet dog could have done as well as Obama. But you rant about Obama and unemployment, you rant about Obama and the price of gas, and you rant about Obama and food stamps... But yet you refuse to accept any of the blame for the problem at all.