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Rochard · 09-10-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

damn, I think this puts my argument in the light that was the OP
This is straight from Committee reports from the 104th congress

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquer...el=TOC_576029&

The Government's use of CS gas in the manner it did, that is, clearly designed to incapacitate men, women and children in a confined, unventilated space, after avenues of escape had been deliberately cut off, was unconscionable; as was the cursory manner in which the Government, and especially Attorney General Reno `bought into' the conclusory and simplistic analyses that the use of CS gas posed an `acceptable' level of risk.

The fact is, while experts may--and did--differ over the precise effects of CS gas on children, or how and in what ways the use of CS gas might act as a catalyst for a fire, no rational person can conclude that the use of CS gas under any circumstances against children, would do anything other than cause extreme physical problems and possibly death.

For the Government of this country to consciously use CS gas in the way it did on April 19, 1993 in Waco is utterly indefensible and should never be allowed to be repeated. I believe the deaths of dozens of men, women and children can be directly and indirectly attributable to the use of this gas in the way it was injected by the FBI.

I would go further than the report, and call for a prohibition on the use of CS gas in situations in which children or the elderly are present or are the targets.

You did it again Brett... You cherry picked your information. Why didn't you link to the full report Brett?

From the full report: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpquer...49&dbname=104&

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It is important to note, however, that there are no published studies which find that any human death has been caused by exposure to CS agent.

Then....

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While it cannot be concluded with certainty, it is unlikely that the CS riot control agent, in the quantities used by the FBI, reached lethal toxic levels.

Now it seems like barely any tear gas hurt them:

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In reality, the concentrations of CS inside the Branch Davidian residence did not reach even these levels. The Branch Davidian residence was a poorly constructed structure which allowed for air to move in and out of the residence continuously. The air circulation carried some of the CS agent out of the building. Adding to the air circulation inside the Davidians residence that day was the fact that the FBI began to use the CEV's to ram openings into the building, ostensibly to create a means of escape for the Davidians and, later, to `deconstruct' portions of the structure in an effort to prevent the Davidians from occupying those areas of the residence. These actions greatly enhanced the circulation into the residence and further depleted the concentration of CS agent inside the residence. Additionally, on April 19th, the winds were gusting up to 25 mph.

Yet still twenty years later... Law enforcement uses tear gas when required during a stand off.

Sorry, for fifty-one days these child molesters and cop killers had a stand off with police. Eventually the police had to go in and get them. They all could have surrendered any time.