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Old 09-13-2013, 07:53 AM  
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla View Post
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/08/m...ill-civilians/

One point that needs to be made, but rarely if ever mentioned, is that in the supposed rationale for US attack on Syria to avenge/prevent claimed civilian deaths by government gas attacks, the US government itself has used similar weapons openly as recently as the FBI/ATF attack on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco Texas in the spring of 1993.

76 men, women and children died in this senseless military style assault which used highly lethal military CS gas as a primary weapon. CS is not a nerve agent and it doesn’t in normal concentrations cause immediate death. But it is highly flammable, persistent and designed to incapacitate targets by causing massive biological reactions including inability to breathe, massive tearing in the eyes, nose bleeds, etc.

The Davidians were totally surrounded, posed no threat to others, and responded with weapons fire only after the ATF/FBI attacked with military style firearms. After the initial government assault was repelled, and after a long standoff, an impatient President Clinton and his Attorney General Janet Reno ordered an all-out military assault on the compound, despite the fact that the only legal justification was a single warrant for David Koresh on unproven charges. The presence of innocent group members was ignored, nor was there any planning for medical aid or fire suppression.

The rest is history. Special military tanks were used to puncture compound walls and insert large quantities of CS gas. CS gas grenades were used from military stores along with 2 metal CS pyrotechnic M651E1 shells. Other pyrotechnic devices and flammable rounds were also fired into the buildings despite known dangers of CS gas ignition and chemical changes to the CS in fires making it even more deadly.

Wikipedia has more details. The video “Rules of Engagement” makes it clear that this was a deliberate effort to kill those inside.

In the run up to the Iraq invasion and now with Syria, United States officials loudly wailed about these regimes “killing civilians” with poison gas. Despite lack of hard evidence for such use in these countries, there is no doubt that President Clinton and Reno approved this exact same tactic.


While some victims were shot, most died from burns or asphyxiation as a result of the CS gas and the subsequent firestorm created when it was ignited deliberately.

So precedent is clear: the US Empire can use poison gas against peaceful religious dissenters when they do not immediately surrender to heavily armed police forces using military weapons. This is lied about, rationalized and ultimately forgotten, with the dead victims being blamed for their “suicidal actions.”


Hi Vendzilla,

CS is Chlorobenzylidene Malononitrile, or Tear Gas and is used for crowd control. It's visible and looks yellow. It causes tears, pain and sometimes even blindness. Dangerous and bad for you but generally considered non-lethal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tear_gas

Sarin gas is considered a Weapon of Mass Destruction. It's colorless and odourless and is extremely lethal even at very low concentrations. It kills you in less than 1 minute. If you inhale it, you suffocate because it causes muscle paralysis in your lungs. The attack in Syria was intentional and killed over 1000 people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin

President Clinton did not order an "all-out military assault". The 51 day standoff ended when the FBI used tear gas to get the Davidians's out. A FIRE killed 76 or so people, not the gas. The intention was to end the standoff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege

Comparing that actions of Clinton during Waco to Assad (or whoever is responsible for the gas attacks) in Syria way off base.

Instead of trying to blame Clinton for anything close to what is going on now, consider Ronald Reagan. He & Rumsfeld sold Chemical weapons to Iraq during the Iran - Iraq war. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...211;Ira q_war

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