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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
[INDENT]@rochard -- you will never convince me that the FISA court was following the intent of the FISA law when it gave blanket warrants allowing the surveillance of US Citizens domestically.
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To date I have yet to see where there is a problem with any of this. The vast majority of these cases are local police departments getting warrants for local crimes, not the NSA targeting Americans because they think they might be terrorists.
In other words, nothing has really changed. Local PD has a crime, files a warrant, and gets information.
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
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And your point here is? Seems to me this law makes it so if the President and the Attorney General believe it's valid, they can file a lot of paperwork, certify stuff in writing, and swear under oath... and get a warrant? You understand it's a lot easier to get warrant than it is go through that process, right?
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
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I don't understand why you seem to mention it. It details how to get warrant. It's pretty easy really, and the process hasn't changed much - law enforcement goes to a judge, presents it's case, and the judge signs a warrant.
Nothing dirty about that, been doing that for the past fifty years or so.
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
Then NSA did violate the letter of the law and the FISA Court acquiesced to that violation.
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So there is one law that states how to get a warrant and another law for the President to get warrant and.... You feel the law has been violated how?
These are both laws, and so far no one has provided proof of any wrong doing.
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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam
In fact, one FISA Court Judge resigned when this whole thing started ... Federal Judges do not just pack their marbles up and leave the playground...
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So one judge out of eleven seem to disgree with this policy and.... What? That makes it illegal? Seems it's a law.
And ten other judges seem to disagree with you.
To date, Snowden has yet to provide proof that the US intelligence agencies have broken any laws at all.