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Originally Posted by mopek1
Squealer, 12Clicks, Far-L,
Why is it that not only are affiliates disappearing, content producers hurting, traffic sellers taking a hit .... BUT ...
but ... PROGRAM OWNERS are also shutting down their businesses???
If it was just a tube problem like us affiliates are bitching about then the above peoples would all be fine (save affiliates). But that's not the case. How many programs have shut their doors in the last few years?
Even ND, BB and the other bros are not what they once were. I've seen many programs that I have personally promoted either shut down or just stop updating altogether.
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I make sales from tube submissions for BB and ND that were done almost 2 years ago by my guys. Still converts just as well as ever. Me and my friends used to laugh our asses off at people complaining about "saturated content" when sites that were ranking in google for ND / BB site names were converting as solid as ever.
Again, these arguments are at this point, well over a decade old. Why are programs going out of business? Programs have always gone out of business. More came and went in the first 5 years of online adult than have been created in the following 10.
That is a simple fact.
There are 1000 ways that things have changed and you guys (at your own expense) have became fixated on and obsessed with only one... One which you feel you can blame for everything. A single catch all excuse for your failures.
Your reality is what you make it. If you've decided things are bad and only getting worse... Then that becomes your reality. It's clealry not the same for everyone as others are busy making money. I glanced at my stats today and see I plan ought traffic from well over 2500 sites, mostly tubes and tube scrapers. I spent zero time blaming them and all my time lea ring to better monetize the traffic. That's why these conversations are comical. You guys could download all BB/ND videos (approx 4k), watermark hem and submit those same clips over and over and in a few months be making 30-40-50k a year with "saturated" contend posted to "worthless tube sites with traffic that doesn't convert". But hey... why work for it?
Also, I just looked at my ppc stats. One simple test campaign on xhamster and I've doubled my spend, making about 300 profit. That's before a single tweak, adjusting bids, testing offers and with a very low traffic volume. That's how "useless" tube traffic is.